Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed May 01, 2024 1:03 pm  

I've never really seen any explanation of why the fixture list has been so ridiculous. Did Wigan and Huddersfield ask for loads of away fixtures due to the shared facilities with football clubs? We usually have plenty of away games in early summer but it isn't the norm for early season. We also have the ridiculous scenario where we'll have played Castleford 4 times come June 14th (I know one was in the cup), yet we still won't have played a single fixture against Hull or Leeds and I know that sort of scenario is being played out across the league.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed May 01, 2024 1:40 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Its a valid point that you make and there are certainly no guarantees. Will Roberts for example (scrum half) was looking really good and then did his cruciate ligament on loan at Swinton at 17 years of age. He has only just come back from that injury so it remains to be seen what impact it has had on him.

I can only speak from what I have seen watching a fair bit of them but its more that Mike Rush when interviewed said that he feels 4 or 5 of them won't just have solid SL careers but he described them as "game changers" so when your CEO and someone who to be fair has had a great pedigree in the youth side of rugby says that then it gives you extra confidence.

It seems to be a lot of pressure on those guys and, more importantly, pinning your hopes on an unknown quantity from the club's perspective. I guess it's one thing if you're a settled side and these young players are being drip fed into it but, with a major rebuild ahead, it could be a real gamble depending on which signings are made. The incomings would have to be proven quality and even then there are no guarantees.

A very risky strategy from Saints if they're counting on all these young players coming good but one that could pay off if it works out well.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed May 01, 2024 2:32 pm  

Zig wrote:

Regarding the fixture list Stu we have only played two of our eight league fixtures at home. When we play London at home at the end of June we will have played 10 matches away and only three on home turf. If we are in contention at that point the LLS could be a forgone conclusion.

Not sure why this is funny though TYG, i think it is a very valid point.

We lose very few games at home under Peet. In fact, looking back we have only lost 2 home games under Peet. The 2022 semi final vs. Leeds & 1 game early last season vs. Catalan.

I would be confident if we are still up there come the second half of the season, when we will play mostly home games.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed May 01, 2024 2:38 pm  

BoredWiganer wrote:

Not sure why this is funny though TYG, i think it is a very valid point.

We lose very few games at home under Peet. In fact, looking back we have only lost 2 home games under Peet. The 2022 semi final vs. Leeds & 1 game early last season vs. Catalan.

I would be confident if we are still up there come the second half of the season, when we will play mostly home games.

I think to suggest that top spot could be a foregone conclusion by June is ridiculous.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed May 01, 2024 2:56 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I've never really seen any explanation of why the fixture list has been so ridiculous. Did Wigan and Huddersfield ask for loads of away fixtures due to the shared facilities with football clubs? We usually have plenty of away games in early summer but it isn't the norm for early season. We also have the ridiculous scenario where we'll have played Castleford 4 times come June 14th (I know one was in the cup), yet we still won't have played a single fixture against Hull or Leeds and I know that sort of scenario is being played out across the league.

It's so the football clubs can treat the pitch in their off season

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed May 01, 2024 3:25 pm  

bazdev wrote:

It's so the football clubs can treat the pitch in their off season

That accounts for late May/June but we’ve been playing away most of the time since Feb, just as Huddersfield have been. It’s why that has been the case that I’m curious about, as well as the crazy situation of playing some clubs 3 times by June and other zero times. You struggle to read that much in to the league table because of it.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed May 01, 2024 3:35 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

I think to suggest that top spot could be a foregone conclusion by June is ridiculous.

‘Could be’ being the important words. Let’s get to the end of June and have another discussion. It will be interesting to see if the bookies think it is ridiculous. One thing is for sure there aren’t many teams that will finish above Wigan if such a scenario arises.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed May 01, 2024 3:46 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I've never really seen any explanation of why the fixture list has been so ridiculous. Did Wigan and Huddersfield ask for loads of away fixtures due to the shared facilities with football clubs? We usually have plenty of away games in early summer but it isn't the norm for early season. We also have the ridiculous scenario where we'll have played Castleford 4 times come June 14th (I know one was in the cup), yet we still won't have played a single fixture against Hull or Leeds and I know that sort of scenario is being played out across the league.

Probably to give you time to sort your ST situation out

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed May 01, 2024 3:57 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Probably to give you time to sort your ST situation out

the way its going i'm surprised we've not partnered with the Co-op arena too

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed May 01, 2024 4:29 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Probably to give you time to sort your ST situation out

We’ll need until July 2034 for that.