Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Sep 02, 2024 11:03 am  

Saints will win it from 6th scoring a grand total off 11 points in the process

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:11 pm  

The Reaper wrote:

It's just becoming a chore to watch now. I'd love to know what percentage of games in SL this year have seen at least 1 card. Will be way over 50% in my estimation. They're whats deciding half of these games, completely change momentum etc. Its ruining the integrity of the comp at this point

Fwiw whilst I thought Vaughans last night was probably correct by the letter of the current rules (even though I don't like it), this one I'm not even sure you can say that. The ref says its a direct shoulder to the head but it doesn't look like that to me, looks like he's got him with the arm

You cannot really know that for sure without factoring in the final results and what the score was when the card was issued.

There are plenty of games were the cards don't make a difference to the final result.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:15 pm  

nathan_rugby wrote:

You cannot really know that for sure without factoring in the final results and what the score was when the card was issued.

There are plenty of games were the cards don't make a difference to the final result.

That’s not really the point though. Yes, the team losing a player may have lost even with 13, or the team losing a player may overcome and win anyway. What’s undeniable in every single case though is it completely changes the dynamic and momentum of the game

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Sep 02, 2024 5:50 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Copied and pasted from RedVee and this is the best explanation for me......

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Been going through the fixtures to work out all the possibilities.

Current table:
Saints 28
Salford 28
Leigh 27
Catalans 26
Leeds 26

Fixtures: (my lousy predictions in brackets)

SAINTS
Wire A (L)
Cas H (W)
Leigh A (L)

SALFORD
Catalans H (W)
Hull FC A (W)
Wigan A (L)

LEIGH
Cas A (W)
Hull KR H (L)
Saints H (W)

CATALANS
Salford A (L)
London H (W)
Hull FC A (W)

LEEDS
Hull FC H (W)
Wigan A (L)
Hull KR A (L)

Would leave the final table:

Salford 32
Leigh 31
Saints 30
Catalans 30
Leeds 28

Boldly assuming a win against Cas, it would be very unlikely that we miss the playoffs given Leeds' run-in and Catalans inferior points difference.

Leigh away a huge game for them as a defeat could well see them drop out. A win for us would put us in 4th and give us another home game, and a loss would mean Warrington away first up.

For what it is worth I think Saints will make the top 6 but my point still stands that mathematically one win doesn’t guarantee Saints a playoff spot. If your predictions are correct then a Saints trip to Warrington would be very tasty. Also, I wouldn’t put it past Wigan or HKR to falter next week as this Friday’s fixture is akin to a GF game and it can be extremely challenging to perform the week after such a big game.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:08 am  

Stu M wrote:

It seems like we are in advanced negotiations with Lewis Murphy...

And Dagnall will be the starting winger in a couple of years (England Academy winger/centre) who like a few of the others is not quite ready (as shown in our last few performances where it has literally been men against boys)

Murphy confirmed now on a 2 year deal

Well Well Well RobRiches- its almost like I do have sources after all....posted this before the media started to, check the date d**k head

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:23 am  

Much improved backline for 25

1.Sailor 2.Feldt 3.Karapani 4.Percival 5.Murphy 6.Welsby 7.Lomax

Still think there is plenty of work to do on that pack but with Briers coming too should see an upturn in your attack.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:31 am  

Stu M wrote:

Murphy confirmed now on a 2 year deal

Well Well Well RobRiches- its almost like I do have sources after all....posted this before the media started to, check the date d**k head

Great signing if he's got over that bad injury, got to admit I've seen nothing of him since he went to Oz but he looked a terrific young player at Wakey

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:32 am  

jonh wrote:

Much improved backline for 25

1.Sailor 2.Feldt 3.Karapani 4.Percival 5.Murphy 6.Welsby 7.Lomax

Still think there is plenty of work to do on that pack but with Briers coming too should see an upturn in your attack.

Karapani isn't cut and dried its just that it seems Briers is definitely bringing a young centre with him and fans are looking at who is off contract. Karapani is in and around the first team now and the fans seem to rate him.

There's also Robertson to add to that 1-7 at some point. He's played way more games this year than first envisaged and the lad has looked vulnerable at times and made a few errors. He needs taking out of the firing line for the rest of this season (seems like Welsby may be back in a couple of weeks against Cas) but with a good pre-season and hopefully a bit of size put on, he will get more games next season.

I agree with the pack btw, think we need another prop but would have to be English and non-quota

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:24 pm  

Decent back line for next year. No excuses for Wellens next year not to challenge for silverware

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:31 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Murphy confirmed now on a 2 year deal

Well Well Well RobRiches- its almost like I do have sources after all....posted this before the media started to, check the date d**k head

Murphys an exciting signing, genuine pace and great finisher