Re: Karl Pryce : Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:32 pm  

I would dearly love Pryce to be in form at the end of the year and get in the England side.

Could be a potent weapon for us - if he has the bottle to front up properly against Aus/NZ.

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Re: Karl Pryce : Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:33 pm  

Mr.Side wrote:

As I said yesterday he has still a long way to go and certainly looked abit dodgy under the high ball and grubbers however he took his tries well and scored his 3rd hat trick of the season if im not wrong.

I think it was abit unfair for Goulding to be dropped though.

Goulding lost his right wing spot to Roberts. He didn't lose it to Pryce.

Re: Karl Pryce : Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:34 pm  

Is there a team in Super League with a better back 3 right now than Roberts/Richards/Pryce ?

Re: Karl Pryce : Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:35 pm  

i still laugh when we get people saying things such as "in madge we trust" but then moan when he picks pryce over goulding.

every time we get the team through we get the moans, i think this is partly to do with the fact that most of his games have been away from home. so some people wont have seen him and his improvement.

for me the goulding v pryce debate is simple. when pryce is playing, teams dont attack his wing, and with richards/roberts on the other they are not going to go down there. forcing them to go through the middle of us. which hardly any teams are good enough to do. but when goulding plays teams have a wing which they can attack and make meters and score trys.

i wonder what it will take for fans to warm to him. a vital score v saints doesnt look like it would be enough.

Re: Karl Pryce : Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:44 pm  

jimlav wrote:

i wonder what it will take for fans to warm to him. a vital score v saints doesnt look like it would be enough.

Mate - If JC himself descended at half-time and declared KP to be the next big thing, it wouldn't matter to the guys who still boo him when the team is announced.

I will hold my hands up - I thought we had made a MASSIVE mistake when we kept him on after last season.

However, having seen all of his games this year, it is blindingly obvious that the injury absolutely killed his confidence.
The change in coaching staff has benefitted KP more than most, as MM/SW are quite clearly able to get inside the heads of the players and sort them out (just look at Amos as the prime example).

KP is improving with every single game and I can't wait to see what he can do come the end of the season.

Re: Karl Pryce : Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:46 pm  

V For Vendetta wrote:

Is there a team in Super League with a better back 3 right now than Roberts/Richards/Pryce ?

Well I think the strike rates (i.e tries per appearances) say it all.

Pryce - 157%
Goulding - 121%
Roberts - 108%
Richards - 95% (He's actually dropped dramatically since switching to Full Back)

Re: Karl Pryce : Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:47 pm  

Id like to see Karl use his hands to fend off tacklers, ive not seen him do this so far and some of the best players ive seen on the wing that relied on power (kevin iro, lesley vinakolo etc) were able to use the fend to devastating effect

Good luck to the lad, i think that 1. Roberts 2. Pat 3. K Pryce is our best lineup at the back right now, saying that its probably the best in the league

Re: Karl Pryce : Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:49 pm  

I think we need to get back to Roberts at 1 with Richards and Pryce on the wings.

Those seem to be each man's best positions.

However, I hate myself for admitting that, as I'm also a huge Phelps fan. Unfortunately, he's just not in the picture right now for whatever reason.

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Re: Karl Pryce : Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:54 pm  

Bilko wrote:

Well I think the strike rates (i.e tries per appearances) say it all.

Pryce - 157%
Goulding - 121%
Roberts - 108%
Richards - 95% (He's actually dropped dramatically since switching to Full Back)

You're in a better position to confirm this but wasn't Roberts' strike rate better when he was on the wing too? I think he set more tries up from fullback though.

Re: Karl Pryce : Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:07 pm  

Pryce has now played seven games and looking far better than we thought possible. He could be quite something if MM & SW continue to improve him as they have been doing.
He's also putting in that "big " tackle each game now.
No wonder they don't attack his wing, imagine getting on the wrong side of that!
A long way still to go for Karl but if he continues to improve then he can be a very valuable player for Wigan.