Re: Can't win the Grand Final & the challenge cup : Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:09 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

And I've done what to deserve this latest round of abuse?

If a fellow Wigan fan had pointed out the error in the OP, would he/she be treated like this?

So was it a different system and in 2006 did Saints do the double whilst breaching the salary cap?

Re: Can't win the Grand Final & the challenge cup : Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:11 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

So was it a different system and in 2006 did Saints do the double whilst breaching the salary cap?

Yes it was a different system, but that isn't what the OP was referring to.

The salary cap has absolutely nothing to do with this thread as it had no bearing on what happened on the field.

You must be very bored to keep trying to get a rise out of me on this issue; you won't succeed.

Re: Can't win the Grand Final & the challenge cup : Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:16 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

Yes it was a different system, but that isn't what the OP was referring to.

The salary cap has absolutely nothing to do with this thread as it had no bearing on what happened on the field.

You must be very bored to keep trying to get a rise out of me on this issue; you won't succeed.

Answer the question, did Saints breach the salary cap in that season, and why you're doing that you may as well tell us if was it a level salary cap that season?

Surely it's relevant as that's the last time the double was achieved.
And we know we won't get an answer, and the reasons why.

Re: Can't win the Grand Final & the challenge cup : Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:19 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Answer the question, did Saints breach the salary cap in that season, and why you're doing that you may as well tell us if was it a level salary cap that season?

Surely it's relevant as that's the last time the double was achieved.
And we know we won't get an answer, and the reasons why.

The reason I'm not going to answer you is that several people, including a mod, has had a go about me supposedly derailing threads, or at least contributing to the derailing of a thread. I won't allow you to coax me into doing it again.

If you can't stick to the subject of a thread, don't post. I won't reply to another one of your posts that isn't related to the subject in question.

Re: Can't win the Grand Final & the challenge cup : Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:28 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

The reason I'm not going to answer you is that several people, including a mod, has had a go about me supposedly derailing threads, or at least contributing to the derailing of a thread. I won't allow you to coax me into doing it again.

If you can't stick to the subject of a thread, don't post. I won't reply to another one of your posts that isn't related to the subject in question.

So no team has won the GF and CC in the same season under a top 8 playoff format. And the last team to do it breached the salary cap as well.

Re: Can't win the Grand Final & the challenge cup : Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:33 pm  

Dougy wrote:

So no team has won the GF and CC in the same season under a top 8 playoff format. And the last team to do it breached the salary cap as well.

If only the OP had said that. Could have saved us all an hour or so

Re: Can't win the Grand Final & the challenge cup : Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:51 pm  

Well this was a good thread, well done gents, top notch stuff

Re: Can't win the Grand Final & the challenge cup : Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:14 am  

So Rogues is discounting saints treble because the RFL decided to hastily arrange a halfarsed mid season test match which led to a couple of saints players getting a bonus for making an England debut?

Sounds reasonable.

If a team is good enough to do the double they will. There's a fair chance Wigan could do it this year.

Re: Can't win the Grand Final & the challenge cup : Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:24 am  

Unfortunately, I have to agree with FTV on this one. This thread was clearly made to highlight our perceived inability to win both trophies on offer this year, despite having one of the easiest routes to the trophy for many a year (240 points scored compared to 28 conceded in our cup run tells its own story).

If a team is good enough to do the double they will.

This Wigan team is good enough, and I don't think we'll get an easier chance to do it for a long long time, but on current form, they're not convincing very many people at all. I too hope that I am vastly wrong.

Re: Can't win the Grand Final & the challenge cup : Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:58 am  

Jimofwigan wrote:

No team has won the grand final and the challenge cup since the cup was moved to August. The stains will try and say they have done this double but they played the cup match in May. Without lockers and a team that's not interested in getting to the final I get the feeling our season is going to continue with the poor form we can't seam to play through. I can't tell you how much I hope I am wrong.

Are you sure about that Jim? Unless a player has told you that personally I'm not sure how you could know that until we see their attitude on Thursday night.