Re: IMG Gradings Cause Controversy : Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:31 am  

Would London with draw from SL for next year knowing they would be relegated regardless? Could they if they wanted to?

Re: IMG Gradings Cause Controversy : Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:04 am  

[Gareth] wrote:

Would London with draw from SL for next year knowing they would be relegated regardless? Could they if they wanted to?

I don’t see the point of them getting beat by 70-80 every week. It wouldn’t do them or the league any good. If they are running with the same part time players as previously suggested those kind of score lines would be likely.

Re: IMG Gradings Cause Controversy : Fri Oct 27, 2023 11:09 am  

Well that is probably their best hope. Run with an extremely cheap squad, essentially forfeit a year of competitiveness and invest all of their SL money into everything else.

Re: IMG Gradings Cause Controversy : Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:16 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

London unless they produce the biggest miracle of all time are relegated before the season starts. Who would want to sign for London in the very likely hood that they are almost certain to be relegated?

I suspect you're correct, but how many here would have said exactly the same about the Lobby Gobblers 12 months ago? I think Cas have to be at least joint favourites to go down next year (unless they seriously pull their socks up).

Re: IMG Gradings Cause Controversy : Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:17 pm  

CyberPieMan wrote:

I suspect you're correct, but how many here would have said exactly the same about the Lobby Gobblers 12 months ago? I think Cas have to be at least joint favourites to go down next year (unless they seriously pull their socks up).

I think they mean London are doomed because even if they do a Leigh, win the cup and finish 5th, they’ll still be relegated because they won’t get enough points under the new licensing system. I don’t have a massive issue with that, this system was always going to throw circumstances up where teams felt hard done to but we need to ride that period out and it will settle and when it does, it will just keep everyone honest and make sure clubs aren’t just sleeping and plodding along in a comfort zone.

Re: IMG Gradings Cause Controversy : Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:03 am  

[Gareth] wrote:

Would London with draw from SL for next year knowing they would be relegated regardless? Could they if they wanted to?

With the new grading system, they will only get relegated if they finish bottom, assuming another grade B team wins the championship GF, won't they?

Re: IMG Gradings Cause Controversy : Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:34 am  

CyberPieMan wrote:

I suspect you're correct, but how many here would have said exactly the same about the Lobby Gobblers 12 months ago? I think Cas have to be at least joint favourites to go down next year (unless they seriously pull their socks up).

I don't think many who paid attention thought that about Leigh. They signed a SL quality team in advance and annihilated the championship from round 1. They had a team capable of being competitive in SL a full season before.

London have managed to sneak their way through with a mostly part-time team from 5th. Even they didn't expect themseves to be promoted, hence why they had already re-signed some of their part time players before the playoffs even began. Not comparable.

Re-reading the statement from London, although they said they will stick by their part timers, they have also saod they are having a lot of players thrown at them so hopefully they can cobble something somewhat competitive together before the season starts.

Can't say i am optimistic though, the only signing they have made so far is a Keighley player.

Re: IMG Gradings Cause Controversy : Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:45 am  

Jack Burton wrote: With the new grading system, they will only get relegated if they finish bottom, assuming another grade B team wins the championship GF, won't they? I may be wrong, but i believe the top 12 graded clubs will be who is in super league next season. Which is why Castleford are upset about being in 13th, a mistake that appears to be completely of their own doing. Mind blowing how you can make a mistake on what is probably the most significant documentation in your clubs whole history. They should be docked points for being that amateur. Interesting article from Matthew Shaw, can't say i completely agree with it all but he makes some good points. Nice to see some actual journalism in RL for once too https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... dium=email

Jack Burton wrote: With the new grading system, they will only get relegated if they finish bottom, assuming another grade B team wins the championship GF, won't they? I may be wrong, but i believe the top 12 graded clubs will be who is in super league next season. Which is why Castleford are upset about being in 13th, a mistake that appears to be completely of their own doing. Mind blowing how you can make a mistake on what is probably the most significant documentation in your clubs whole history. They should be docked points for being that amateur. Interesting article from Matthew Shaw, can't say i completely agree with it all but he makes some good points. Nice to see some actual journalism in RL for once too https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... dium=email

Re: IMG Gradings Cause Controversy : Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:34 am  

BoredWiganer wrote: I may be wrong, but i believe the top 12 graded clubs will be who is in super league next season. Which is why Castleford are upset about being in 13th, a mistake that appears to be completely of their own doing. Mind blowing how you can make a mistake on what is probably the most significant documentation in your clubs whole history. They should be docked points for being that amateur. Interesting article from Matthew Shaw, can't say i completely agree with it all but he makes some good points. Nice to see some actual journalism in RL for once too https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... dium=email Great article, and sums up my thoughts. I'd prefer promotion and relegation in an ideal world, but we aren't in an ideal world. Too many clubs are badly run, hold the game back, and dont deserve to be in a top flight competition. Teams like Wigan and Saints invest in facilities, invest in youth, get good crowds in, and contribute to the health of the sport. Sadly a lot of clubs need the threat of being excluded from SL to motivate them to run themselves properly

BoredWiganer wrote: I may be wrong, but i believe the top 12 graded clubs will be who is in super league next season. Which is why Castleford are upset about being in 13th, a mistake that appears to be completely of their own doing. Mind blowing how you can make a mistake on what is probably the most significant documentation in your clubs whole history. They should be docked points for being that amateur. Interesting article from Matthew Shaw, can't say i completely agree with it all but he makes some good points. Nice to see some actual journalism in RL for once too https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... dium=email Great article, and sums up my thoughts. I'd prefer promotion and relegation in an ideal world, but we aren't in an ideal world. Too many clubs are badly run, hold the game back, and dont deserve to be in a top flight competition. Teams like Wigan and Saints invest in facilities, invest in youth, get good crowds in, and contribute to the health of the sport. Sadly a lot of clubs need the threat of being excluded from SL to motivate them to run themselves properly

Re: IMG Gradings Cause Controversy : Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:41 am  

I do wonder if IMG are just serving up what's been tried before and noone liked it back then I suspect this system after couple of years will cause the same sort of feelings..

The TV deal isn't a good start for IMG either,like it or not they were charged with spreading the gospel and sorting the sport and it's TV deal out what's happened so far is much less money for more product unless and again I suspect this will happen the pay per view bunny is pulled out of the bag to offset the losses like I say not a great start.

I've no issue with social media but it simply shouldn't be the be all and end all far to easy to manipulate numbers as no one checks if there's a real person behind the name,yes use social media and try to use it well but be wary of it too.