I think, in the absence of Harvard and Cooper, Thompson, Byrne, Dupree and Mago are the props. Probably Hill or Eseh if we go with a 5th. O'Neil to start at Hooker with Leeming on the bench. 2nd row of Farrell and Walters with Isa on the bench, although it may be Isa to start for the reasons Jonh has stated. Ellis at loose.
As this is a friendly, though, are we not playing unlimited interchanges?
I wonder if Cooper will play any part at all? There has been talk that he’s on course for the start of the season, so we’ll see. I saw pictures of him in training and he’s another who looks as fit as a fiddle.
I wonder if Cooper will play any part at all? There has been talk that he’s on course for the start of the season, so we’ll see. I saw pictures of him in training and he’s another who looks as fit as a fiddle.
Agree re Cooper. i think he's ahead of where it was initially thought, and as you said looking fit. However, there's the subtle difference between fit and match fit (contact ready) and i do feel he will need either a bit of a run out this week or a couple of blow outs in the reserves before he makes a first team start, if nothing else to give him some confidence going into contact
Given we have Dupree, Mago, Thompson, Byrne, Chan, Ellis, Hill and Eseh all fit, there's no major need to rush, unless is is ready. I think Thompson and Byrne may like some extra minutes this week to continue their rehab and return to full fitness
Agree re Cooper. i think he's ahead of where it was initially thought, and as you said looking fit. However, there's the subtle difference between fit and match fit (contact ready) and i do feel he will need either a bit of a run out this week or a couple of blow outs in the reserves before he makes a first team start, if nothing else to give him some confidence going into contact
Given we have Dupree, Mago, Thompson, Byrne, Chan, Ellis, Hill and Eseh all fit, there's no major need to rush, unless is is ready. I think Thompson and Byrne may like some extra minutes this week to continue their rehab and return to full fitness
Fully agree. I wouldn’t consider Cooper for Cas or Penrith tbh but you could get him a few minutes in this one from the bench. Once Penrith is out the way, they could then look at easing him in but there is no need to rush him given how stacked we are in the front row. It’s really pleasing to hear he’s come on so well though because at one point it sounded like it could be 12-15 months of a job.
I don’t think Isa will need much game time prior to the Cas game. He’s a seasoned veteran pro and his game is all about effort areas and toughness.
20 mins either starting or off the bench I think will be enough, however I expect him to start against Cas and Penrith.
Walters was probably our most dangerous forward vs Wakefield but I still see him as the impact option to start the season off.
As the year goes on I wouldn’t be shocked to see a transition where Isa can’t get a place in the 17 when everyone is fit but I don’t think that will be the case for the first 3 or 4 months.
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I wonder if Cooper will play any part at all? There has been talk that he’s on course for the start of the season, so we’ll see. I saw pictures of him in training and he’s another who looks as fit as a fiddle.
He does and I hadn't considered that he might actually be ready. I'm guessing it might be a little early for him but who knows? I suspect Thompson and Cooper will share the 'senior prop' role this year and spell each other in the team, injuries and availabilities allowing.
Totally agree, don’t wanna over react to a friendly hit out but was really disappointed in the pack last week.
Wakefield look hungrier, played the ball faster and had better contact.
Hopefully it’s just a one off.
think it's very difficult to see much in that performance without our normal exit strategy, we set up early hard yards with a mixture of Marshy Miski, Wardle, Keighran, Faz and whoever will be the other second row. Marshy as always been great at that and Miski was a bit of a game changer in the role I'm not sure how much we will miss King who was also solid in that area to say the least and along Smithies and KP who all added to it . It also makes the above more polished when Smith is directing things along with the extra threat outside with the players mentioned and Field and French. I also imagine that will all lend to Leemings style of play. Thompson Byrne blowing cobwebs off, Mcgilvery and Griffin are still as good as most early in hard yards.... I'm determined to be positive
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