Re: Bans - HOCK 2 GAMES, TUSON 1 GAME : Wed May 30, 2012 6:27 am  

I dont see how Hock can get 2 games and Tuson only 1. Both players acted in retaliation but Tuson threw about 725 punches and Hock about 6?

Wane seemed like he wasnt happy with the Hock one and was considering appealing after speaking to our solicitors on his interview on sky last night. Not sure when we will find out about that though.

Re: Bans - HOCK 2 GAMES, TUSON 1 GAME : Wed May 30, 2012 6:41 am  

LMS was the one who started trying to rough Hock up in the scrum in the first place. It appears to me that Hock's hand is on LMS to push him away as LMS is constantly pushing his head towards him. It only seems to be replaying it from the head roll of Hock, completely missing the bit before by LMS.

Re: Bans - HOCK 2 GAMES, TUSON 1 GAME : Wed May 30, 2012 6:51 am  

Cracking picture. Finch looks like he's about to cry.

Re: Bans - HOCK 2 GAMES, TUSON 1 GAME : Wed May 30, 2012 6:53 am  

Conroy wrote:

Cracking picture. Finch looks like he's about to cry.

Wilkin trying his best to look involved

Re: Bans - HOCK 2 GAMES, TUSON 1 GAME : Wed May 30, 2012 6:54 am  

The caption is a bit out of order though: "Had an eyeful: Wigan's Chris Tuson (3rd L) is gouged by St Helens' Shaun Magennis"

Re: Bans - HOCK 2 GAMES, TUSON 1 GAME : Wed May 30, 2012 7:23 am  

Wandering Warrior wrote:

I dont see how Hock can get 2 games and Tuson only 1. Both players acted in retaliation but Tuson threw about 725 punches and Hock about 6?

Wane seemed like he wasnt happy with the Hock one and was considering appealing after speaking to our solicitors on his interview on sky last night. Not sure when we will find out about that though.

I think you'll find LMS had no case to answer.

LMS did not throw one punch.

There have been many occasions where people pack down in the scrum and mess about. It's only when the fists start flying that a mass brawl breaks out.

As for LMS starting it, well that's subjective, ask Wigan fans they will say yes, ask Saints fans they will say it was all hock. To be honest it was Saints scrum wasn't it???? So our head and ball, therefore Hock should have had his head on the inside. But unlike most I have not watched it back, so maybe it was Wigans scrum I really can't recall as I was a bit distracted by the flying fists.

Why does Hock get 2 rather than the Tuson 1, well maybe previous records come in to consideration, they do in most judicial matters, just a thought as it's not Hocks first round with the judiciary.

Re: Bans - HOCK 2 GAMES, TUSON 1 GAME : Wed May 30, 2012 7:28 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

I think you'll find LMS had no case to answer.

LMS did not throw one punch.

There have been many occasions where people pack down in the scrum and mess about. It's only when the fists start flying that a mass brawl breaks out.

As for LMS starting it, well that's subjective, ask Wigan fans they will say yes, ask Saints fans they will say it was all hock. To be honest it was Saints scrum wasn't it???? So our head and ball, therefore Hock should have had his head on the inside. But unlike most I have not watched it back, so maybe it was Wigans scrum I really can't recall as I was a bit distracted by the flying fists.

Why does Hock get 2 rather than the Tuson 1, well maybe previous records come in to consideration, they do in most judicial matters, just a thought as it's not Hocks first round with the judiciary.

LMS didnt throw one punch but he threw his head instead If you watched it back you would see this.

Scrotebrook tried to headbutt Hock. Hock then retaliated by throwing punches, thats not a 2 game ban no matter who it was imo.

Re: Bans - HOCK 2 GAMES, TUSON 1 GAME : Wed May 30, 2012 8:19 am  

RL Shark wrote:

I didn't think mossop deserved anything. Personally I thought his punch was a pacifier stopped magennis in his tracks and the ruck finished. In my opinion he should be saluted ha

I dont know if I am missing something or it may have been mentioned before,but has Mossop been hasty entering an early guilty plea.
After seeing the amount of punches Tuson threw only and then to only get one match,maybe Mossop would have got off with sending off sufficent due to his previous good record. After all the fight stopped when he threw that punch.

Re: Bans - HOCK 2 GAMES, TUSON 1 GAME : Wed May 30, 2012 8:22 am  

stillinthepast wrote:

I dont know if I am missing something or it may have been mentioned before,but has Mossop been hasty entering an early guilty plea.
After seeing the amount of punches Tuson threw only and then to only get one match,maybe Mossop would have got off with sending off sufficent due to his previous good record. After all the fight stopped when he threw that punch.

Trouble is Mossop didnt get sent off.

[DaveO]

Re: Bans - HOCK 2 GAMES, TUSON 1 GAME : Wed May 30, 2012 8:23 am  

Wandering Warrior wrote:

I dont see how Hock can get 2 games and Tuson only 1.

Tuson had the option to cop a guilty plea like Mossop and did so. That is why he got one match.

It is strange though because the minimum tariff for the offence he was charged with is two matches so while I am pleased he only got one game it seems a bit daft to allow a player to effectively downgrade the offence by pleading guilty.

In contrast Hock got the maximum tariif for the class of offence he was charged with despite pleading guilty and despite being sent off in the game for a fight that was nothing out of ordinary unlike Tuson's contribution.

I think Hock was hard done by and I bet there are plenty of other cases where players with a reputation have been given sending off sufficient or just one match.