Re: Our "forwards" : Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:01 am  

Have to say, watching Sam in the NRL (even in the last couple of games where he's actually been pretty good), I do have some doubts. Sure, NRL defences are tougher, but I fear he has lost that half a yard of pace since he was in SL. And his virtual refusal to run kick returns back (inevitably handing the ball off to one of his wingers) doesn't bode well. If I was his coach,I'd want to know WTF he was doing there!

Now if he could stow one of those bright young Warriors forwards in his hand baggage, Charlie Gubb, say, or Sam Lisone...

Re: Our "forwards" : Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:20 am  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

No problem. It'd be a strange old world if everyone agreed with me!

I often wonder just how much we have missed Sam. We were treated to some individual brilliance in practically every game he played for us, often winning games from nowhere. I think in a winning team based around Sam, Lockers, Bateman, Faz, Joel, MMc, Williams, Gelling and Josh that some of the more ordinary players start to look decent.

Leeds carried the likes of Bailey and Kirke for years after all. I would like to see a top class prop (wouldn't we all?) but I'm hoping that Sam will have us on the edge of our seats again. Great players are few and far between, but they make all the difference.

Undoubtedly we've missed Sam. He's a once in a generation type player and there's only a few players in the game who'd have filled such a massive gap.

That being said I don't think he's going to complete our side in one swoop. We desperately need another prop as we just can't compete upfront.

Re: Our "forwards" : Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:01 pm  

Tomkins is clearly playing under instruction in relation to his kick return plays. He has 2 man mountains on the flanks and is being used much more as a roaming half for the Warriors, getting in at the PTB, directing the team around the park then providing the link as the second receiver on both sides of the field.

I don't believe he will be used this way for us, at least I hope not.

Re: Our "forwards" : Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:51 pm  

jonh wrote:

Tomkins is clearly playing under instruction in relation to his kick return plays. He has 2 man mountains on the flanks and is being used much more as a roaming half for the Warriors, getting in at the PTB, directing the team around the park then providing the link as the second receiver on both sides of the field.

I don't believe he will be used this way for us, at least I hope not.

To be fair he used to hand the ball to Charnley/Richards rather than return it when playing for us. I don't have a problem with it to be honest, the wingers are more likely to win the collision, find the floor and get a quick PTB. Let's give him the ball on our terms rather than have him getting munched by forwards chasing the kick

Re: Our "forwards" : Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:26 pm  

Well, I hope you are both right about Sam! We shall see. I agree he's being used as an auxiliary half by the Warriors, and now with SJ out has to take more responsibility.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:20 pm  

Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy wrote:

I hope Wane shows them the game from last month to embarrass a performance out of our forwards this week. One of the most cowardly performances I've seen from a set of forwards for a very long time - letting Ashton Sims play Billy Big Balls was pitiful.

I also hope Williams points out the fact that not one forward did anything to Sims after his cowardly punch.

Forget Pie Smash, the only thing being smashed this week should be Sims.

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If we'd known it would take someone trying to stand on his hand for Mossop to find his balls, Wane could have done it at the start of the season.

Re: Our "forwards" : Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:07 am  

Have to say, you completely reversed the forward bullying from the last game. I thought you
forwards were excellent as they had the bit between their teeth. I'm a big fan of Clubb. Whenever I've seen him play he's difficult to put down and has that aggressive side in defence.

Well played tonight, it could have been more as well, thank goodness you didn't break the 30 barrier.

It's between you and Leeds and possibly Huddersfield with an outside chance. If your forwards play like that as collective, you have every single chance of turning Leeds over, Especially when Micky Mac comes back.

Good luck for the rest of the comp and make sure stains don't get anywhere near it!

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Our "forwards" : Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:13 pm  

Same again - with honourable exceptions for Bateman and Clubb.

Re: Our "forwards" : Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:25 pm  

Agreed

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:05 am  

Not that we were missing a full pack
Flower McIlorum Crosby
Farrell Tomkins
Lockers

leaving too many average/young players up against Warringtons first choice pack