Re: O'Loughlin Grade C Charge : Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:38 pm  

snowie wrote:

not the just this in general the whole game gone corrupt, its been the first time in along time since I haven't held a season ticket at our club due to not financially being able to afford it, I actually work in our ground as we have a micro brewery in the corner, this opportunity was given to us after helping us at time when the club required help with stadium issues, so I've pretty close to some of the problems we've encountered, we've turned this club from being in debt to now running on an even keel but its not without further issues, I've seen first hand how we've struggled to get were we are now and get no praise for their efforts, the sky media has constantly battered us for years and in some way we've deserved some of it, the uneven distribution of live games has again effected the club in a season when we have been worthy of viewing, as for the discipline panel well you only have to just look at most of what's been dished out of late and even you should see that there's no common ground

so yes I fear after years of enjoying the game even at the lower end of the league this season maybe the last, my hearts not in it anymore

Your crowds will be dropping then , are your lot still boycotting all the Childs games was 2 sin bins and a sending off not enough for you

Re: O'Loughlin Grade C Charge : Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:40 pm  

rochdale warrior wrote:

Your crowds will be dropping then , are your lot still boycotting all the Childs games was 2 sin bins and a sending off not enough for you

they haven't been good for years but then tickets was handed out like sweets

Re: O'Loughlin Grade C Charge : Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:44 pm  

rochdale warrior wrote:

Your crowds will be dropping then , are your lot still boycotting all the Childs games was 2 sin bins and a sending off not enough for you

The sport's corrupt, biased against the nothing clubs!

Re: O'Loughlin Grade C Charge : Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:06 pm  

Suzy Banyon wrote:

The sport's corrupt, biased against the nothing clubs!

ok go play on your own

Re: O'Loughlin Grade C Charge : Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:22 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

I just think the RFL are simply inviting criticism with the way they do things. Why bother announcing a Grade C which carries 2-3 games if they are then going to consider these "mitigating factors." Why not consider the factors and then decide on a Grade? At least that way they won't be seen to be backing down and changing their minds. They really don't help themselves at all.

The backlash is inevitable but I can assure people this isn't anything to do with me being a Saints fan. I just don't understand their methods and I feel they could avoid a lot of the criticism by doing things differently.

A very sensible post, I have to agree. I think the issue is one panel set the initial charge where the player concerned is not present and is unable to defend themselves then a different panel decides the punishment in a hearing where the player can defend themselves, in some cases resulting in a lesser charge. The system was supposed to make it more transparent but instead is breeding more controversy.

I also believe this is made worse as some believe the bigger clubs can somehow pull their weight and influence in a way the smaller clubs can't.

As I posted on the VT in this case I think the 3 matches was reduced to 2 as he pleaded guilty which is consistent across the board then reduced by a further match as he was sent off which is also consistent with previous cases. I think ending up with 1 match is lenient, I also think the diciplinary are consistanly lenient and should be handing out larger bans in general.

Re: O'Loughlin Grade C Charge : Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:24 pm  

snowie wrote:

ok go play on your own

Have you decided if you're going down with the ship or you going to abandon your club like a rat fleeing said ship yet?

Re: O'Loughlin Grade C Charge : Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:27 pm  

jimlav wrote:

Not read anything in this thread, but I do have to say, I am extremely concerned that this was only a 1 game ban.

I understand all the mitigating evidence. Especially the fact that he was send from the field in the first half (which when we see people staying on the field and getting 2-3 game bans quite regularly shows that being sent off is actually worse than a 2-3 game ban). But that was clearly worth more than 1 game. I thought 2 games would have been acceptable.

From a player welfare point of view it does not look great. I can see that it is small margins from being a good tackle, and it isn't like he is dropping someone on their neck, but he did hit him high and with a flying arm.

From a club view I am obviously happy, but not sure I agree with it from the sports point of view.

I'm with you Jimmy on this one.
The stick that SOL gets from opposing fans at times is laughable however, in this instance it was a bad irrespective if he was stepped or whatever. I don't believe that SOL is a dirty player at all and consider him to be the best pound for pound tackler in the competition and has been for sometime.
I've watched the tackle a number of times and nothing will convince me that a one match ban is sufficient punishment for a pretty reckless tackle. What would the response be if Sam Tomkins was on the receiving end of a similar tackle?

Like yourself from a club point of view it is a far better result than I expected and I won't be complaining come the semi but the inconsistency of the review panel isn't good for the game.

Re: O'Loughlin Grade C Charge : Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:28 pm  

jimlav wrote:

Not read anything in this thread, but I do have to say, I am extremely concerned that this was only a 1 game ban.

I understand all the mitigating evidence. Especially the fact that he was send from the field in the first half (which when we see people staying on the field and getting 2-3 game bans quite regularly shows that being sent off is actually worse than a 2-3 game ban). But that was clearly worth more than 1 game. I thought 2 games would have been acceptable.

From a player welfare point of view it does not look great. I can see that it is small margins from being a good tackle, and it isn't like he is dropping someone on their neck, but he did hit him high and with a flying arm.

From a club view I am obviously happy, but not sure I agree with it from the sports point of view.

I'm with you Jimmy on this one.
The stick that SOL gets from opposing fans at times is laughable however, in this instance it was a bad irrespective if he was stepped or whatever. I don't believe that SOL is a dirty player at all and consider him to be the best pound for pound tackler in the competition and has been for sometime.
I've watched the tackle a number of times and nothing will convince me that a one match ban is sufficient punishment for a pretty reckless tackle. What would the response be if Sam Tomkins was on the receiving end of a similar tackle?

Like yourself from a club point of view it is a far better result than I expected and I won't be complaining come the semi but the inconsistency of the review panel isn't good for the game.

Re: O'Loughlin Grade C Charge : Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:36 pm  

Suzy Banyon wrote:

Have you decided if you're going down with the ship or you going to abandon your club like a rat fleeing said ship yet?

glory hunter

Re: O'Loughlin Grade C Charge : Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:50 pm  

When I woke up this morning and read a 1 game ban I couldn't believe it. Even as a Wigan fan I think 3 games would be the correct call and reduced to 2 with EGP. The disciplinary at the RFL are a joke though, look at the Saints reserve getting a 5 game ban for the same offence he received a 10 game ban for not long ago. The way the sport is run back home is a joke from top to bottom.