Re: CCF match discussion : Sun May 29, 2022 8:22 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

A shocker?!? He scored a try with some great support play, kicked all the goals, was tough in D and created the match winning moment!! What more do you want? I think you should have watched the game from the Wigan end. Being amongst the Huddersfield fans seems to have clouded your vision.

He came up with match winning moments I agree, and fair play to him for that, but I I thought in general play we looked rudderless with both him and Cust having off days.

He came up big when he had to though and ultimately did come up with a few seconds of magic so fair play to him.

Re: CCF match discussion : Sun May 29, 2022 8:29 am  

jonh wrote:

He came up with match winning moments I agree, and fair play to him for that, but I I thought in general play we looked rudderless with both him and Cust having off days.

He came up big when he had to though and ultimately did come up with a few seconds of magic so fair play to him.

Just watch where he started when Smith scored his try he was on the opposite side of the pitch and followed the play to score his try .When you see this on tv it will not be so obvious but from behind you can see what he did.

Re: CCF match discussion : Sun May 29, 2022 8:37 am  

apollosghost wrote:

Should’ve hung fire with the Lance Todd Trophy, Harry Smith take a bow

Agreed.

The trophy should go to the player who makes a difference to the result. Without Smith yesterday we lose.
But the press pick the winner with about 5 minutes to go - just before Smith’s bit of magic.

Re: CCF match discussion : Sun May 29, 2022 9:04 am  

Cruncher wrote:

It's a pity they don't do that on those multiple occasions when it's not the Challenge Cup Final.

Huddersfield are one of the consistently worst-supported teams in SL.

I don't blame them for coming and enjoying their big day out, but after the way the Wigan fans rallied and supported the Warriors when they were facing the possibility of relegation, I'll never consider our lot second fiddle to anyone.

I'm not impressed by 'fantastic support' when it's only for the Cup Final.

Spot on. They are an awful, awful club imo.

Loads of talk on here recently about the price of tickets and how the club would love an extra 2k on the gate each week. All of that is well and good, but the wouldn't it be great if certain teams brought some away fans and helped lighten the burden for everyone.

Always seems like it's left to the big sides to take up the slack. On things like player development, or even taking a consistently decent following. All you ever get off the back of it are words like "entitled" thrown at you too.

By the way 7 couldn't hear the Hudds fans. The majority of the atmosphere seemed to be from our end. Maybe it's the acoustics of where a person is sat?

Re: CCF match discussion : Sun May 29, 2022 9:05 am  

jonh wrote:

He came up with match winning moments I agree, and fair play to him for that, but I I thought in general play we looked rudderless with both him and Cust having off days.

He came up big when he had to though and ultimately did come up with a few seconds of magic so fair play to him.

We didn't look rudderless at all. We dropped too much ball and made too many errors none of which was down to Smith. When we held on to the ball we looked good and scored 3 excellent tries.

Re: CCF match discussion : Sun May 29, 2022 9:25 am  

Towards the end the Giants were content to take the tackle on 6th play rather than risk kicking in goal an risking the chance of Field , French or Marshall going the length of the field . Their negativity cost them the game . I said to Ross when they took the 2 after a couple of minutes that they were not confident. They should have won the game but a good team on form would have beaten the Giants with some to spare .

EW

Re: CCF match discussion : Sun May 29, 2022 9:27 am  

Bar a silly error at the play the ball, I thought Smith was absolutely excellent. His defence has come on leaps and bounds. He was a major threat all the way through the game, he scores a try and creates the winner. Our man of the match by a fair margin I thought (Smithies and Bateman very good also) and if they decide the Lance Todd after the game, he probably gets that as well.

Re: CCF match discussion : Sun May 29, 2022 9:34 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

Bar a silly error at the play the ball, I thought Smith was absolutely excellent. His defence has come on leaps and bounds. He was a major threat all the way through the game, he scores a try and creates the winner. Our man of the match by a fair margin I thought (Smithies and Bateman very good also) and if they decide the Lance Todd after the game, he probably gets that as well.

Absolutely NK. Jon is generally a good poster but he needs to stop watching games with the opposition fans if that was his take from the game. Smith MOM by a country mile. No one else including McQueen had the effect on the game that Smith had. If McQueen had then Huddersfield would have won. It really is that simple.

Re: CCF match discussion : Sun May 29, 2022 9:37 am  

Well I backed Smith for Lance Todd so I agree it should have been picked at the end

Re: CCF match discussion : Sun May 29, 2022 9:43 am  

jonh wrote:

Heaving not rewatched the game and posting for this feeling very hungover in a Travelodge in Walthamstow I thought Smith had a shocker, but he did provide the quality at the end to get us over the line, when the reality was we probably didn’t deserve it on balance of play.

Wasn’t a classic but we found a way to win.

I thought Smithies was our best on the day but probably fair for McQueen to get the Lance Todd, he was outstanding.

Hi Jon
I would suggest whatever you were drinking that created this massive hangover may have impaired your judgement on the day

I've never been convinced by Harry Smith but (1 ptb knock on aside) he was very good yesterday. Defensively very sound, kicking game was good, ran the ball and took the line on a number of time creating breaks/half breaks, scored one with a superb piece of support play considering normally he would be mainly on the other side of the field and created the other 2 tries, 1 with an unbelievably good ball to Thornley for the Field Try and to cap it all, after the magnificent ball from Tommy L, he straightened up the defence with his first movement which narrowed the defensive line for a second rather than immediately look to go wide, and then put in an inch perfect kick at the most pressurised time of the game.
Now
We may end up disagreeing on the above

But what I am going to say and will never ever change my mind is that our fans were out of this world yesterday!
There must have been 20k plus there, that while end was 95% Wigan and we had loads down the sidelines and in the Huddersfield end. In fact I would say closer to 25k
The atmosphere albeforebthe game was 80% Wigan fans in the pubs and street and the Wigan end was tremendous, on the concourses, and during the game and even when going behind the fans kept going.

I'll give you a free pass if you were sat next to the Giants fans at their end and you thought the 5k they brought were fantastic, brilliant.
But the Wigan fans outnumbered then 5 to 1 and there was no lack of support for them