Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:57 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

He’s had a few games this season running above 100m, his defence is good, his errors and penalties are low. He’s been pretty good IMO. That isn’t me saying he’s make my side now because he probably wouldn’t but he’s not having a bad season by any stretch. I’d agree he’s had a couple of bans and that’s not ideal but we’ve debated the merits of one for days.

I don’t have him as a bad signing at all but I do think we can improve on him now Cooper is here and the young lads have developed a pace.

Possibly, but for me I just think that Singo was brought in to be a pack leader of sorts. A 200+ game vet coming into his peak, prop years. He's instead been outshone by two kids, who have carried him a parts of the season (Saints at Magic is the obvious one).

He's just not good enough and a couple of 100m games and a low error count doesn't cut it. He's averaging about 6.8m per carry which is a woeful number for the supposed number 1 prop, playing for a team 2nd in the league.

We're all rightly happy with Cooper and one of the main reason for that, imo, is because Singo isn't doing the job he was brought in for.

Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:18 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Possibly, but for me I just think that Singo was brought in to be a pack leader of sorts. A 200+ game vet coming into his peak, prop years. He's instead been outshone by two kids, who have carried him a parts of the season (Saints at Magic is the obvious one).

He's just not good enough and a couple of 100m games and a low error count doesn't cut it. He's averaging about 6.8m per carry which is a woeful number for the supposed number 1 prop, playing for a team 2nd in the league.

We're all rightly happy with Cooper and one of the main reason for that, imo, is because Singo isn't doing the job he was brought in for.

I can go with most of that apart from the 6.8m a carry being woeful. He isn’t left on for long spells that guys like Peacock and Graham were back in the day but they rarely went above a season average of 7m a carry (I’m in no way putting him in that company by the way). I sound like I’m backing him to the point of being chuffed with him and I’m not but I think he’s been pretty good.

What I will say is that his best games seem to be against the lesser sides and that’s a worry. It’s the games like the magic one that have let his season down and leaves him vulnerable. Ultimately Singleton has never been a huge metre maker and if that is why we brought him in, we got the wrong man. It’s why I still feel Peet might just have him first choice. I think they like his experience and aggression from the start of games. We’ll see how it plays out in a few weeks I suppose.

Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:26 pm  

I’m happy with Singleton. People get massively bogged down with stats. When you actually watch the game he doesn’t look out of place like Clubby and Flower use to. Could he be better yes but I think he does bring the experience to the team that is needed. I’d be happy for him to see out his career here

Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:30 pm  

I really don't know ow why this "see the season"thjng has crept Into sport ti.e was players got moved on sharpish non of this waiting around so good to see him come over early

Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:57 pm  

It has just dawned on me while reading this we have gone from arguably the worst pack in the league getting dominated every week last season, to the point where we have so many solid potental combinations that we can't even decide which one is best!

How the bloody hell did we get here? What a time to be a wigan fan!

Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:47 pm  

BoredWiganer wrote:

It has just dawned on me while reading this we have gone from arguably the worst pack in the league getting dominated every week last season, to the point where we have so many solid potental combinations that we can't even decide which one is best!

How the bloody hell did we get here? What a time to be a wigan fan!

It’s been some turnaround from having Lam show that little trust in guys like Clark and Bullock, that we’d even see a guy like Shorrocks propping at points in games.

Good recruitment has played a part but Peet being able to kick Byrne, Havard and Smithies on a level or two has been key IMO. It’s funny how your recruitment generally is very good when you have a good coach and it’s rubbish when you have a poor one.

Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:05 pm  

WWste wrote:

I’m happy with Singleton. People get massively bogged down with stats. When you actually watch the game he doesn’t look out of place like Clubby and Flower use to. Could he be better yes but I think he does bring the experience to the team that is needed. I’d be happy for him to see out his career here

Great point.

Singo has been a good player for Wigan and probably isn’t on mega bucks either.

Overall he’s exceeded my expectations since he joined us.

Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:16 pm  

BoredWiganer wrote:

It has just dawned on me while reading this we have gone from arguably the worst pack in the league getting dominated every week last season, to the point where we have so many solid potental combinations that we can't even decide which one is best!

How the bloody hell did we get here? What a time to be a wigan fan!

Reading this thread just now I was thinking the exact same thing! It doesn't seem five minutes since...

Re: Mike Cooper : Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:51 am  

Can’t wait till we play Warrington on the 5th hope we tear them a new one… again

Re: Mike Cooper : Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:57 am  

BoredWiganer wrote:

It has just dawned on me while reading this we have gone from arguably the worst pack in the league getting dominated every week last season, to the point where we have so many solid potental combinations that we can't even decide which one is best!

How the bloody hell did we get here? What a time to be a wigan fan!

The way this season is going it will be a disappointment not to win the Grand Final.
The feel good factor is so good at the min