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: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:56 am  
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I won't deny he is on a fair whack, at the end of the day you don't ask for a release unless it is a sizeable sum. I just take exception to the ridiculous figures being banded about. I only know one thing that is factual; King is not the highest earner at Warrington and the highest earner is not on a salary above £200k.

My theory on his release is something along the lines of; at Melbourne he may have been on $200/220k Aus, we go in with an offer of £150k, with the exchage rate at the time providing an offer in the region of $340 Aus, with the shenagans of image rights, it may have taken it closer to $400 Aus. What would you do if the opportunity to almost double your salary for a guaranteed period came along?

Instant headline; King signs $1.6 million contract.


If King isn't the highest earner at Wire and the hughest earner is on less then 200k you did unbelievably well to get him for that price when you did.

I honeslty can't see that being right but you know more then me.
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: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:00 am  
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I won't deny he is on a fair whack, at the end of the day you don't ask for a release unless it is a sizeable sum. I just take exception to the ridiculous figures being banded about. I only know one thing that is factual; King is not the highest earner at Warrington and the highest earner is not on a salary above £200k.

My theory on his release is something along the lines of; at Melbourne he may have been on $200/220k Aus, we go in with an offer of £150k, with the exchage rate at the time providing an offer in the region of $340 Aus, with the shenagans of image rights, it may have taken it closer to $400 Aus. What would you do if the opportunity to almost double your salary for a guaranteed period came along?

Instant headline; King signs $1.6 million contract.


That may well be all well and good, but you also seem to forget that other clubs were also hotly chasing his signature. The above hypothetical situation assumes you were the sole bidder when you were not.

I have my doubts any SL club could sign a current established Australian Rep player for anything less than £200 k prior to add ons, just my opinion.
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: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:02 am  
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I don't suppose we can answer that question until such signings are made or until such time as it's announced that no signings will be made.

He signed Gleeson remember, which was quite unexpected and bucked a trend of thought that he wouldn't pay transfer fees.


That's the point. IL did bring in Gleeson, but also has missed out on one or two other signings that would have been great for our club.

Considering this, at this stage, do you have faith that he'll come through with the signings?
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: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:03 am  
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That may well be all well and good, but you also seem to forget that other clubs were also hotly chasing his signature. The above hypothetical situation assumes you were the sole bidder when you were not.

I have my doubts any SL club could sign a current established Australian Rep player for anything less than £200 k prior to add ons, just my opinion.


Exactly, at the time of his arrival, he was a rep player, a good age, and had the potential to rip up SL. Instead we signed Carmont and got a better deal!
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: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:04 am  
Is Willie Manu off contract?
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: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:05 am  
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That may well be all well and good, but you also seem to forget that other clubs were also hotly chasing his signature. The above hypothetical situation assumes you were the sole bidder when you were not.

I have my doubts any SL club could sign a current established Australian Rep player for anything less than £200 k prior to add ons, just my opinion.


It is my understanding that when it came down to the 11th hour, we were the only ones to have put a contract in front of him.
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: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:06 am  
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: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:15 am  
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It is my understanding that when it came down to the 11th hour, we were the only ones to have put a contract in front of him.


The firm offer of a contract may only have come for you, but negotiations certainly came from to my knowledge 2 other clubs for his services.
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: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:20 am  
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The firm offer of a contract may only have come for you, but negotiations certainly came from to my knowledge 2 other clubs for his services.


I won't dispute, as I am sure other clubs would have certainly sounded him out. But what I was told, as I stated; the only contract on the table was ours.
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: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:30 am  
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Exactly, at the time of his arrival, he was a rep player, a good age, and had the potential to rip up SL. Instead we signed Carmont and got a better deal!


King signed for Warrington before IL was in charge at Wigan iirc.
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