Re: Other Teams' Rumours And Signings For 2021 : Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:55 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I suppose the big difference is that he's coming into a team that already have seven forwards aged between 30 and 35.
If he is only on a one year deal then he'll probably do a job but that pack will need a big refresh in the next couple of years.

I’d also add to that that the players quoted didn’t have such a significant drop off in form that Graham has.

If it’s just for this season as rumoured though I’m sure he will be a good signing as he will be running on emotion. Anything more and I’d be questioning the signing.

Nostalgia only gets you so far as Cunningham found to his cost.

Re: Other Teams' Rumours And Signings For 2021 : Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:51 am  

jonh wrote:

I’d also add to that that the players quoted didn’t have such a significant drop off in form that Graham has.

If it’s just for this season as rumoured though I’m sure he will be a good signing as he will be running on emotion. Anything more and I’d be questioning the signing.

Nostalgia only gets you so far as Cunningham found to his cost.

By a drop in form of older players like Graham, some would say that the same same also applies to some of our players like Burgess G, Burgess J,Clubb, Leulaui and O'Loughlin.

Are they too, running on emotion and being selected on nostalgia?

Re: Other Teams' Rumours And Signings For 2021 : Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:22 am  

Ruddy Duck wrote:

By a drop in form of older players like Graham, some would say that the same same also applies to some of our players like Burgess G, Burgess J,Clubb, Leulaui and O'Loughlin.

Are they too, running on emotion and being selected on nostalgia?

Non of those mentioned have had such a loss of form so drastically as Graham.

Re: Other Teams' Rumours And Signings For 2021 : Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:53 pm  

Has Graham's form really dropped off? He was a real force when he went over to the NRL. Could this 'drop off' be calculated against his own high standards as well as against the top performing opponents in his his position over there.

For instance how would be compare now to let's say Flower & Clubb over here?

Re: Other Teams' Rumours And Signings For 2021 : Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:04 pm  

Ruddy Duck wrote:

By a drop in form of older players like Graham, some would say that the same same also applies to some of our players like Burgess G, Burgess J,Clubb, Leulaui and O'Loughlin.

Are they too, running on emotion and being selected on nostalgia?

Clubb barely runs. Never mind on emotion.

Re: Other Teams' Rumours And Signings For 2021 : Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:43 pm  

jonh wrote:

Non of those mentioned have had such a loss of form so drastically as Graham.

You really need to take those Cherry & White tinted glasses of Jonh, Lockers has been going down hill for years, Managing 8 minutes in one game and 17 in another is awful

Re: Other Teams' Rumours And Signings For 2021 : Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:32 pm  

The Whiffy Kipper wrote:

You really need to take those Cherry & White tinted glasses of Jonh, Lockers has been going down hill for years, Managing 8 minutes in one game and 17 in another is awful

And still doubled what Clubb did in both them games.

Re: Other Teams' Rumours And Signings For 2021 : Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:58 pm  

JonnyBroad wrote:

And still doubled what Clubb did in both them games.

But Clubb isn't being touted as Wigans only hope is he

Re: Other Teams' Rumours And Signings For 2021 : Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:43 pm  

The Whiffy Kipper wrote:

You really need to take those Cherry & White tinted glasses of Jonh, Lockers has been going down hill for years, Managing 8 minutes in one game and 17 in another is awful

I’m not sure what you are talking about to be honest.

I’ve said I think he will do a good job for the rest of the year if he signs and I’ve also said I think he will have a big impact off the field.

I think he would be a massive risk beyond this year due to level and intensity he has played at week in week out over the last few years.

Props in particular tend to age very quickly.

Hardly a damming criticism of him as a player or Saints signing him.

Locky clearly has issues regards fitness however he is still the best player on the field generally when he does play. Wigan have managed him over the last few years and generally that has worked nicely.

I don’t really understand where the rose tinted comment comes from.

I’d personally be gutted to see Graham come back and struggle as his career deserves more than that that’s happening for him at the moment in the NRL but I think he will do ok in SL for the rest of this year.

Re: Other Teams' Rumours And Signings For 2021 : Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:38 pm  

jonh wrote:

I’m not sure what you are talking about to be honest.

I’ve said I think he will do a good job for the rest of the year if he signs and I’ve also said I think he will have a big impact off the field.

I think he would be a massive risk beyond this year due to level and intensity he has played at week in week out over the last few years.

Props in particular tend to age very quickly.

Hardly a damming criticism of him as a player or Saints signing him.

Locky clearly has issues regards fitness however he is still the best player on the field generally when he does play. Wigan have managed him over the last few years and generally that has worked nicely.

I don’t really understand where the rose tinted comment comes from.

I’d personally be gutted to see Graham come back and struggle as his career deserves more than that that’s happening for him at the moment in the NRL but I think he will do ok in SL for the rest of this year.

Genuine question, have you watched him play the last two weeks? You make out like he’s disgracing himself currently when the reality is far from it. If he was stinking the place out the way people are implying then he wouldn’t be getting picked every week.