Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:22 pm  

moto748 wrote:

I don't think there's any danger of the fans thinking Peet is a genius, and although, as you say, It should be an absolute doddle for Peet to improve on that, realistically, Peet is going to be hampered by a lukewarm reception from the start. For my part, I'll wish the coaching team all the best and hope for better things next season (can hardly be worse, surely?), and I am heartened by the inclusion of Briers.

It is tongue in cheek but realistically he isn’t coming in to the environment that Lam came in to. We were champions at that point and people expect that to just carry on, even though you’ve lost Wane, Tomkins, Bateman and Sutton and not replaced them properly. That’s not a defence of Lam, he was dreadful but at least Peet comes in to a club now where people (like you said above) are going ‘well I’ll be happy if it’s at least more entertaining than last season’. His appointment may bring mixed views but if we show some early signs of recovery, he’ll start to build goodwill pretty quickly IMO. He’s a proper Wiganer Matty Peet, a normal lad from Hindley and I wish him nothing but the best.

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:47 pm  

Of course I fully agree, but many fans may not share our view. At this time of year, after the NRL GF and the SL final at the weekend, it always seems a long few months for me until the new seasons start up, glumly watching rugby union highlights shows (and if ever a sport benefited from 'highlights', it is union!), hoping to see the occasional bit of flair (which you do, occasionally, from time to time, to be fair). I would say, too, that I've read a lot of comments lately about 'the ever-declining standard of Superleague', but it does seem to me that those words ring a little hollow if coming from fans whose team only manage 15 points per game. Much better to criticise the standard when you're at the top, isn't it? So let's achieve that standard before we decry it too much!

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:10 am  

Having watched Mat Peet interview on Wigan TV he comes over as confident person. He wants to get the best out of players if he thinks they are slacking he said that they will told they have to improve. He did say if they dont want to wear the Wigan shirt with pride then they will be shown the door .He wants to integrate more with the Wigan public both on and off the field .He has inherited a lot of Wanes attitude and it was him who wanted Lee Briars as coach having worked with at International colts level.in ILs he is hailing the coaching set up as a new venture there are no backs coach and forwards coach both Lockers and Briers are both assistants and will be picking the team together.

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:28 am  

Lets be honest here. Wane wanted the job and wigan wanted him but given the playing roster he knew it would be pointless and damaging to his CV as even Wane couldnt do anything with such a poor team

So Peet takes over in the interim with Wane assembling the squad he wants over the next 2 to 3 years. Then Peet gets sacked once Wane has his ready assembled squad.

Peet gets some valuable first team coaching experience so will be able to get a head coach position at someone like Wakey, Wane gets to coach a really good wigan squad.

Everyones happy!

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:34 am  

With the exception of Lee Briers replacing John Winder and the departure of Lam, many supporters will have noticed that the coaching team is more or less the same one which has been there for the past few seasons since Maguire left.

The proof of the pudding of any improvement will be in increased attendances, results, standard of play and above all, a return to the winning of trophies for which Wigan has been renowned over the years.

The pressure is now on Matty Peet and his coaching team!

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:00 am  

100% Warrior wrote:

It’s not really euphoric but I see your point. That team (bar Briers) isn’t who I’d have chosen to be brutally honest, you’re description re disappointed fans is fairly accurate and I’d be an outright liar if I didn’t say I was a little disappointed we hadn’t gone for more experience.

That being said this coaching team, whether it’s who we’d chosen or not, whether we’re disappointed or euphoric deserves our full backing and support. Ultimately we don’t have a crystal ball, would a proven coach have worked? There’s a chance, and a good one at that, it wouldn’t. Will this work? I’d say there’s about that same chance.

You may be right with your last comment, as disingenuous as it was intended to be. But if this is who we have gone for, and it works, it’s an absolute master stroke from IFL and KR. And even you would have to admit it.

The masterstroke by IL and KR has been to get Sean Wane to return to the club!

We can only hope that things return to normal as a result of the decision!

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:12 am  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

Lets be honest here. Wane wanted the job and wigan wanted him but given the playing roster he knew it would be pointless and damaging to his CV as even Wane couldnt do anything with such a poor team

So Peet takes over in the interim with Wane assembling the squad he wants over the next 2 to 3 years. Then Peet gets sacked once Wane has his ready assembled squad.

Peet gets some valuable first team coaching experience so will be able to get a head coach position at someone like Wakey, Wane gets to coach a really good wigan squad.

Everyones happy!

Absolutely Steph

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:42 am  

Ruddy Duck wrote:

With the exception of Lee Briers replacing John Winder and the departure of Lam, many supporters will have noticed that the coaching team is more or less the same one which has been there for the past few seasons since Maguire left.

The proof of the pudding of any improvement will be in increased attendances, results, standard of play and above all, a return to the winning of trophies for which Wigan has been renowned over the years.

The pressure is now on Matty Peet and his coaching team!

On the contrary, I don’t see much pressure other than a few disgruntled fans. All he needs to do is improve on last season, which with a point per game average as low as ours isn’t going to be too difficult. Most common sense and level headed Wigan fans will tell you that the squad we have assembled for 2022 isn’t a title or trophy winning squad so expectations in that regard are almost non existent. The year after remains to be seen but that’s when I’d expect us to be realistically challenging again. I am more than happy to be proved wrong on that obviously.

The coaching team is completely different from when Mags left and you know it. That’s an outrageous lie Ruddy. The sole survivor from Mags’ coaching team is Wane. Peet was working in the youth system and had nothing to do with seniors. Even for you that’s an outrageous and blatant lie.

Ruddy Duck wrote:

The masterstroke by IL and KR has been to get Sean Wane to return to the club!

We can only hope that things return to normal as a result of the decision!

Wane isn’t in charge. Peet is. I can already see what line you’re going to take even if Peet leads us to a clean sweep of everything. Give it a rest.

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:41 am  

100% Warrior wrote:

On the contrary, I don’t see much pressure other than a few disgruntled fans. All he needs to do is improve on last season, which with a point per game average as low as ours isn’t going to be too difficult. Most common sense and level headed Wigan fans will tell you that the squad we have assembled for 2022 isn’t a title or trophy winning squad so expectations in that regard are almost non existent. The year after remains to be seen but that’s when I’d expect us to be realistically challenging again. I am more than happy to be proved wrong on that obviously.

The coaching team is completely different from when Mags left and you know it. That’s an outrageous lie Ruddy. The sole survivor from Mags’ coaching team is Wane. Peet was working in the youth system and had nothing to do with seniors. Even for you that’s an outrageous and blatant lie.

Wane isn’t in charge. Peet is. I can already see what line you’re going to take even if Peet leads us to a clean sweep of everything. Give it a rest.

I am well aware that apart from Wane, the 'new' coaching team were not members of the coaching team when Maguire left, but the fact remains that with the exception of Briers replacing Winder, the new coaching team with the exception of Wane, but including Peet and O'Loughlin were members of last season's coaching team under Lam.

And I have never said that Wane is in charge of the 'new' coaching team, only that it is a masterstroke on the part of Lenagan and Radlinski to get Wane to return to the club in whatever capacity they see him doing a useful job for the club.

And as I have also said previously, hopefully, the 'new' coaching team will improve results, return the squad to the level that supporters expect and win trophies again .

Hope that clarifies what I said.

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:52 am  

Ruddy Duck wrote:

I am well aware that apart from Wane, the 'new' coaching team were not members of the coaching team when Maguire left, but the fact remains that with the exception of Briers replacing Winder, the new coaching team with the exception of Wane, but including Peet and O'Loughlin were members of last season's coaching team under Lam.

And I have never said that Wane is in charge of the 'new' coaching team, only that it is a masterstroke on the part of Lenagan and Radlinski to get Wane to return to the club in whatever capacity they see him doing a useful job for the club.

And as I have also said previously, hopefully, the 'new' coaching team will improve results, return the squad to the level that supporters expect and win trophies again .

Hope that clarifies what I said.

It does. Still doesn’t change you said it was the same coaching team as when Maguire was here.

And I couldn’t agree more with your last sentence.