Why would it warrant a red card? Did you consult your Sky commentators "guide to the rules" for that?

Mcguire Should have been penalised and Tomkins should have been sent from the field of play....
thats why I said Id rather see a "holding back" and have it punished than seeing Tomkins Stay on the pitch for what he did a simple penalty isnt good enough Ganson would have had him off double quick.

sorry if it wasnt clear Ive had to sift through some nonesense on this forum today.

I havent re-watched the game and Alibert bless him didnt have a clue, and I still dont know what penalty was given and whether it was taken from the correct spot..... he's the worst ref by some distance but to be fair he's been good to you...

I agree with you there, if it was Ganson he would of had no hesitation in sending Joel off



Your right about Alibert too, at times he is so indecisive and it was good work by the linesman in the last minute to sort the situation out. What is interesting is that all the games we have lost this season Bentham has either been the ref or the video ref



In all seriousness tho Bentham he was the one who told Alibert about the penalty of Donald taking out Richards, just a shame he didnt realise the penalty should have been where the ball landed.

My opinion on what i consider to be old news.
And you need to find some better bait ........

Only it shouldn't have been a penalty for that. Donald had to make that play, irrespective of seconds on the clock or men aorund him. At real-time speed it was a legitimate tackle. That Bentham or the touchie failed to recognise that has been completely smokescreened in this potty debate.

Wearing a fairly large knee brace for an uninjured player this morning......

I am also not buying the inevitable six points stuff. Carmont was caught over a much shorter run earlier in the match, there were serveral Leeds players around, many of whom were more than quick enough to catch Richards or Carmont over the 50-60m or so to the line. I think you are allowing emotion to cloud your judgement a bit if you are really honest. I have watched the pull back this morning on a replay, and it is the sort of incident that happens pretty often throughout the season. Penalty, 10 minutes, end of chat.

I have never seen a red card given for a professional foul in RL, I think you have the wrong sport. Had Monsieur Alibert penalised him (rightly) for the pull back, you would have faced 12 men for a very few seconds from an un-kickable penalty. He (wrongly) penalised Donald instead, so you got a kickable penalty. In neither circumstance would the disciplinary be even considering a ban.

If a player was injured in an attempt to injure another player, I could understand a bit of schadenfreude (not my bag, but I could understand it). Injured in a non-violent offence? I don't see the poetic justice. What's the "natural justice" penalty for being offside? Would a broken finger be sufficient?

I think a few deep, cleansing breaths are needed on this board.

Oh, and Bluey's post-match comments allude to an incident other than the pull back on Carmont, the case for or against which remains very much un-proven.

Not a red card offence though was it?

I agree it maybe shouldnt of been a penalty for that. Sky showing the replay so many times in slow motion definately made it look worse. Crusaders had a penalty given against them for the exact same thing against Hull FC the other week so at least they are being consistent. Really we should of had a penalty on our 30m line where McGuire committed the offence, but instead Donald was judged to make the offence, hence why I'm saying the penalty was in the wrong. But it doesnt matter now anyway, Leeds deserved the win we need to concentrate on Friday.

Correct.

It's also being ignored that Leeds were effectively down to 12 men, sin bin for McGuire or not. His injury meant they were a man down, so the sin bin/send off debate is utterly futile. Only a narcissistic referee would have binned a man on a stretcher with 5 seconds left.

I give you Steve Ganson.

Did anyone grab hold of the ref like one of your players did not so long ago?

No way.

Ut should never have been a bloody penalty in the first place, donald was committed, he dived into the tackle before richards even kicked the ball ffs.....and then the ball went straight into touch.

the penalty SHOULD have been 20 metres further back for the carmont incident.

Watch the game again...

The ball did not go straight into touch, it bounced then went out. Most of the people are saying that the penalty was harsh as Donald was committed, but if thats the penalty that is given then its taken where the ball landed. They are the rules. Kick was missed anyway, so I dont know what people are still going on about.