: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:58 pm  

cadoo wrote:

Or how about forget a replacement for Hock. Just use what we have for a season and sign up Ben Ross as a replacement for Andy Coley............................................

Would agree with that, I think signings will be limited and in the end if we want to give youth a chance then we should leave space in the team for them to play, it's no good having an Aussie in there way. That's why I'd allow Bailey to go after all if there's one area in the team where it should solely home grown British it should be the backrow.

: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:01 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

Would agree with that, I think signings will be limited and in the end if we want to give youth a chance then we should leave space in the team for them to play, it's no good having an Aussie in there way. That's why I'd allow Bailey to go after all if there's one area in the team where it should solely home grown British it should be the backrow.

But that will mean replacing Phil Bailey and Gareth Hock purely with homegrown talent.

Would you be happy going into next season with just Joel Tomkins, Lee Mossop and Harrison Hansen?

I'm not sure.

: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:07 pm  

cadoo wrote:

No

Just to confuse matters we could sign up all three because of the new rules the RFL have made Phil Bailey will count as a federation player because he was signed before the rules were in place in 2007.

This explains it:

The RFL has now announced that clubs will be able to renew or extend the contracts of non-federation players who were signed before the rule was changed in June 2007.

Those players can be retained on top of the non-federation players that clubs are allowed, though the new dispensation will expire if players switch clubs or at the end of any contract extension.

So in theory we could sign up all three players but we would be able to buy another overseas player.

So we have to release either Cameron Phelps or George Carmont if we want to bring in another overseas player. To bring in two we would have to release both.

I had never bothered educating myself on the cap tbh and it just really confuses me.

: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:07 pm  

cadoo wrote:

But that will mean replacing Phil Bailey and Gareth Hock purely with homegrown talent.

Would you be happy going into next season with just Joel Tomkins, Lee Mossop and Harrison Hansen?

I'm not sure.

& farrell and flanagan

id be happy with that

: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:09 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

People seem to be complaining about who we've signed when in fact we haven't signed anyone yet, plus that list is players out of contract next year, so no point picking players of it if were gonna have no space for them because of signings made this year. I can certainly see the sense in waiting for the right players, what I've yet to see are players that people would like to sign this year who are out of contract this year and available.

Correct.

We're very good, on this message board, at talking ourselves into a suicidal state.

: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:10 pm  

Listening to Veivers on Sky Sports news it seems the club will support Hock.

So i would let Farrell, Mossop fight it out for the number 11

Quality prop and Scrum half and i'm happy

: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:14 pm  

wigan_knight wrote:

Listening to Veivers on Sky Sports news it seems the club will support Hock.

So i would let Farrell, Mossop fight it out for the number 11

Quality prop and Scrum half and i'm happy

What does that mean exactly? Did they say?

: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:15 pm  

cadoo wrote:

But that will mean replacing Phil Bailey and Gareth Hock purely with homegrown talent.

Would you be happy going into next season with just Joel Tomkins, Lee Mossop and Harrison Hansen?

I'm not sure.

I would go with those three in the backrow with Flanagan and Farrel as backup, It's really a big juggling contest as to who comes and goes and we could by possibly strengthening one area inadvertently weaken another through the quota system. In the end it's swings and roundabouts and if it came down to strengthening either the frontrow or backrow I'd choose the frontrow.

: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:18 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

What does that mean exactly? Did they say?

They just showed a small clip of an interview with Veivers that they will show in full when Stevos in the studio.

they said "wigan assistant phil veivers tells sky sports the club will support gareth hock"

: Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:59 pm  

wigan_knight wrote:

They just showed a small clip of an interview with Veivers that they will show in full when Stevos in the studio.

they said "wigan assistant phil veivers tells sky sports the club will support gareth hock"

Which he did and then they cut the clip.