: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:52 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

It was very much tongue in cheek mate, but would you rather have 2 years from a 30 year old Billy Slater or 10 from a 20 year old Doc Murray?

Ridiculous comparison but I would not sign either.

: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:54 pm  

EastStandFaithful wrote:

Ridiculous comparison but I would not sign either.

You wouldn't sign Billy Slater?

: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:55 pm  

: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:58 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

You wouldn't sign Billy Slater?

Not at 30 years of age on the wedge he would command. We would need to sign 16 Doc Murrays to go with him. At 30 his best years are behind him.

: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:05 pm  

EastStandFaithful wrote:

Not at 30 years of age on the wedge he would command. We would need to sign 16 Doc Murrays to go with him. At 30 his best years are behind him.

Good job somebody threw a rope down

: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:06 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

You wouldn't sign Billy Slater?

Billy is a very bad example as so much of his game is about speed - unlikely he'd have that at 30. And if you were talking about the Billy Slater of now, well it all depends what the wedge was.

I wouldn't have Jonathan Thurston for the money he's potentially looking at to stay at the cowboys.

: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:12 pm  

Steve Ella's Beard wrote:

Billy is a very bad example as so much of his game is about speed - unlikely he'd have that at 30. And if you were talking about the Billy Slater of now, well it all depends what the wedge was.
I wouldn't have Jonathan Thurston for the money he's potentially looking at to stay at the cowboys.

First name that came to mind. Darren Lockyer, Adrian Morley, Jamie Peacock. Ask the Bradford fans if Steve Menzies age is a problem.
Stacey Jones and Ruben Wiki were class players way after they'd hit 30.

: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:14 pm  

It's very difficult when trying to asses making a player a contract offer at 32 years of age, especially if you have differing views about his ability to deliver over the contract period.

Nobody can argue for example that Long and Cunningham haven't performed to the full level that was expected of them at the start of the season, and Long particularly missed a lot more games due to injury than could have been even reasonably expected.

Leeds are going to have to make exactly these types of choices with the likes of Peacock and Senior, and I very much doubt they'll be offered the same sort of contract they would have been offered if they were still 29 or just turning 30.

: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:18 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

First name that came to mind. Darren Lockyer, Adrian Morley, Jamie Peacock. Ask the Bradford fans if Steve Menzies age is a problem.
Stacey Jones and Ruben Wiki were class players way after they'd hit 30.

And for every Darren Lockyer etc, there's a few dozen players who are done and dusted during that age range. Like i said it's a balancing act.

We have absolutely no idea what Carmont is looking for as a deal, but it would be extremely silly not to consider his age as factor in the contract being offered.

: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:20 pm  

Carmont's age and ability are just 2 of a number of factors, most of which we know nothing about.

Does anybody on here know how much George has been offered? Or what he's after? Or if he's been offered a 1 + 1 but wants a 2? Or if he wants a 1 + 1 but the club will only offer a flat 1? Or the details of any medical reports on George? Or the expected recovery time of any surgery? Or the risk of failure of any surgery?

NO. So lets stop asuming/blaming/accusing/presuming.