Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:06 pm  

Ritson and Whitley..... I am beside myself with worry.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:10 pm  

Cherry_Warrior wrote:

Ritson and Whitley..... I am beside myself with worry.

Clarke should be good for them but he is a very inadequate replacement for Roby (but, to be fair, how could you replace him???)

Their recruitment so far just screams Cunningham but we will see who else they have lined up

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:27 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

Clarke should be good for them but he is a very inadequate replacement for Roby (but, to be fair, how could you replace him???)

Their recruitment so far just screams Cunningham but we will see who else they have lined up

I am not sure that Clark will be a downgrade on Roby, in 2023, from a playing perspective. He looked like he had done a year too long. However, what he won’t have is the respect Roby had in the dressing room and on the training ground. Saints would be mad not to have Roby around the players on a daily basis given the standards that he set (much like Lockers at Wigan). It would also take some of the pressure off Wellens.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:22 am  

Zig wrote:

I am not sure that Clark will be a downgrade on Roby, in 2023, from a playing perspective. He looked like he had done a year too long. However, what he won’t have is the respect Roby had in the dressing room and on the training ground. Saints would be mad not to have Roby around the players on a daily basis given the standards that he set (much like Lockers at Wigan). It would also take some of the pressure off Wellens.

They had a consummate...you might even say the ultimate... professional in Roby. I'm pretty sure they aren't getting that with Clark.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:13 am  

We will never have any of our team good enough to play for St Helens
Whitley upgrade on Faz,Walters,Isa,Nsemba
Ritson upgrade on Marshy,Miski
Clarke upgrade on O'neil,Powell.Leeming
Their recruitment is so much stronger than ours.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:58 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

They had a consummate...you might even say the ultimate... professional in Roby. I'm pretty sure they aren't getting that with Clark.

I don't disagree with your definition of Roby but, in my eyes, his form waned last season and I am sure that Clark can hit Roby's 2023 standards in 2024.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:19 pm  

Zig wrote:

I don't disagree with your definition of Roby but, in my eyes, his form waned last season and I am sure that Clark can hit Roby's 2023 standards in 2024.

My comments were more about off the field than on it.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:20 pm  

Phuzzy wrote:

My comments were more about off the field than on it.

Absolutely spot on with that.

I think its fair to say that Clark will be a lot more "loose" than Roby ever was.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:55 pm  

Phuzzy wrote:

My comments were more about off the field than on it.

In that case I fully agree.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:33 pm  

Jason65 wrote:

We will never have any of our team good enough to play for St Helens
Whitley upgrade on Faz,Walters,Isa,Nsemba
Ritson upgrade on Marshy,Miski
Clarke upgrade on O'neil,Powell.Leeming
Their recruitment is so much stronger than ours.

You finished top because the MRP were butthurt about the Knowles appeal last season. Had they played fair saints would have finished top by about 8 points.

In the grand final Wigan were utterly terrible. There were about 7 teams that would have turned you over.

By all means, get giddy about winning the grand final but it’s easily the worst team to win SL since 1996 and definitely the most boring