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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:31 am  
Dont forget, Leeds are making him play whilst hes not fit and have rushed him back about a month earlier than he should have been
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:43 am  
Watkins may have had a few bad injuries and lost some pace but he’s still on another level to Sarginson let’s be honest.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:50 pm  
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That’s not spin. Tomkin’s contract had finished. There was a 1 year option in the clubs favour they chose not to exercise which is their right. Instead he was offered a 3 year deal which he rejected.


That is not quite the full story. It was not a simple decision not to exercise the option. To quote Radlinski directly "After a great deal of consideration, taking all of the factors into account and following an open and honest conversation with Sam, the club felt that the option salary set when Sam returned from New Zealand was too high and opted instead to offer a substantial new four-year deal in its place".

They then blathered on about the new deal still making him a highly paid player but the fact is they wanted him to stay but on less money than the option they freely put in place on his return. Putting terms to a player of saying we will pay you £x but then when the time comes to pay it you decide you don't want to is disingenuous. It's the same at Leeds. Getting Watkins to sign a deal and then saying you want to pay less wages is not on. He could well have turned down other offers or not even looked elsewhere based on this contract. Clubs need to be careful. If this starts to be common they are going to end up in court and we might end up with another Bosman type ruling that forces them to honour contracts in full.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:56 pm  
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That is not quite the full story. It was not a simple decision not to exercise the option. To quote Radlinski directly "After a great deal of consideration, taking all of the factors into account and following an open and honest conversation with Sam, the club felt that the option salary set when Sam returned from New Zealand was too high and opted instead to offer a substantial new four-year deal in its place".

They then blathered on about the new deal still making him a highly paid player but the fact is they wanted him to stay but on less money than the option they freely put in place on his return. Putting terms to a player of saying we will pay you £x but then when the time comes to pay it you decide you don't want to is disingenuous. It's the same at Leeds. Getting Watkins to sign a deal and then saying you want to pay less wages is not on. He could well have turned down other offers or not even looked elsewhere based on this contract. Clubs need to be careful. If this starts to be common they are going to end up in court and we might end up with another Bosman type ruling that forces them to honour contracts in full.


I don’t dispute that. The point is Tomkins’ contract was up. The option was in the clubs favour so they had every right not to exercise it. There’s no comparison with what it appears Leeds have tone to Watkins.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:04 pm  
Watkins could have forced Leeds to pay him his contract and he could have sat it out until 2021. It sounds as if Watkins and Leeds have come to an agreement on pay off, which frees up cap space for next season.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:41 pm  
DaveO wrote:
That is not quite the full story. It was not a simple decision not to exercise the option. To quote Radlinski directly "After a great deal of consideration, taking all of the factors into account and following an open and honest conversation with Sam, the club felt that the option salary set when Sam returned from New Zealand was too high and opted instead to offer a substantial new four-year deal in its place".

They then blathered on about the new deal still making him a highly paid player but the fact is they wanted him to stay but on less money than the option they freely put in place on his return. Putting terms to a player of saying we will pay you £x but then when the time comes to pay it you decide you don't want to is disingenuous. It's the same at Leeds. Getting Watkins to sign a deal and then saying you want to pay less wages is not on. He could well have turned down other offers or not even looked elsewhere based on this contract. Clubs need to be careful. If this starts to be common they are going to end up in court and we might end up with another Bosman type ruling that forces them to honour contracts in full.


Wigan had every right to walk away and not offer Sam any deal as the final year was in the clubs favour and Sam signed the deal knowing this. From all accounts Wigan offered him a very generous deal going forward but this was bettered by Catalans so he left.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:07 pm  
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Dont forget, Leeds are making him play whilst hes not fit and have rushed him back about a month earlier than he should have been


How do you know that?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:09 pm  
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Watkins could have forced Leeds to pay him his contract and he could have sat it out until 2021. It sounds as if Watkins and Leeds have come to an agreement on pay off, which frees up cap space for next season.


The pay off will count against the cap.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:10 pm  
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The pay off will count against the cap.


For this season only I assume?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:32 pm  
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For this season only I assume?


Next season surely? He’s being paid a wage for this season
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