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: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:48 am  
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SBW is unhappy in RU and wants out. So where is he to go?

NRL won't touch him, so SL is an option. Hull are already sniffing around, I just hope we are too.

Losing the likes of Coley,Phelps, Bailey, Mathers would simply allow others to have a crack at the big time.


But there in lies the problem who would take these players and there wages onboard? I cannot see anyone wanting to.

It will not be till the end of 2009/off season 2010, where Smith will also be on that list, till we see exactly who we can bring to the club.

I would anticipate that would give us somewhere in the region of between £300 000-£350 000k to play with, and the positive side of this is that we should not have to recruit anyone to replace those players generally as all the players are in house and contracted already, more or less.
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: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:15 pm  
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I don't think even that would give us enough for Sonny Bill. He's on astonomical money in Union. Plus, we'd have to find sufficient takers for all those you nominate. I suspect we could unload a couple, but not all of them at the same time. And even if we did, we'd be weakening our squad numerically at a time when we're probably stronger in terms of numbers than we've been since the start of SL.

I see where you're coming from, but unfortunately I think it's a non-starter. I doubt we'll ever see SBW in RL again. French RU has got a lot more cash than sense.


It all depends on SBW and if he's not enjoying French life or if he's not enjoying RU in general. Hopefully it's the latter as then SL is his only option His market value in RL is different to his market value in RU also. SBW and his agent will know this and they'll still go to the highest bidder but they know they'll never get what he's on now in RL.

In regards to numbers i guess it's a question of if you want quality or quantity. I'd prefer a mixture of both tbh but i'd like our back ups to be be kids like Mossop, O'Carroll, Ainscough and Farrell rather than Phelps & Mathers etc.

For me this club is crying out for a true world class talent and SBW is certainly that.
We need someone who can just provide that Xfactor when the chips are down like they were on Sunday and produce on game changing moment of magic. Farrell used to do it, Trent did it many times but who’s gonna do it now for us?
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: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:23 pm  
I say stop all this talk about SBW its never going to happen and will only make you depressed :wink:
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: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:21 pm  
I agree with the Preistman85.

A good team has it's youngsters breaking through, it's week in week out performers/solid players with experience and it's star players with spark who have that certain something who can win you a game from no where.

Over the years we've gone from having one of these players in ever position Hanley Greg Dermo Edwards etc, to having a few in a team Farrell. Renoef Lam to having one, Faz then Baz to nowadays were we have not one in our team.
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: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:39 pm  
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But there in lies the problem who would take these players and there wages onboard? I cannot see anyone wanting to.

It will not be till the end of 2009/off season 2010, where Smith will also be on that list, till we see exactly who we can bring to the club.

I would anticipate that would give us somewhere in the region of between £300 000-£350 000k to play with, and the positive side of this is that we should not have to recruit anyone to replace those players generally as all the players are in house and contracted already, more or less.


If we do have that much to spend I dont think we shoud replace all those players directly but get in some real world class players and blood some youngsters.
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: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:54 pm  
surely at that v first fans forum at deanery IL said that it was THIS season that we would enjoy some cap space freed up - especially seeing that TB went on top of what we all would have predicted.

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: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:27 pm  
Interesting article regarding Eddie Jones here:

http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/lo ... 14482.html

But his dream is to coach in the NRL in Australia.

"I played league when I was a young kid and loved the game," he said from London. "I always watched the game pretty intently and still watch it.

"If ever there was an opportunity to do that I would jump at it because I think it is a fantastic game. It would be a great challenge."


Although the article says 'But his dream is to coach in the NRL in Australia', I think he means Rugby League in general.
Interesting article regarding Eddie Jones here:

http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/lo ... 14482.html

But his dream is to coach in the NRL in Australia.

"I played league when I was a young kid and loved the game," he said from London. "I always watched the game pretty intently and still watch it.

"If ever there was an opportunity to do that I would jump at it because I think it is a fantastic game. It would be a great challenge."


Although the article says 'But his dream is to coach in the NRL in Australia', I think he means Rugby League in general.
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: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:15 pm  
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Interesting article regarding Eddie Jones here:

http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/lo ... 14482.html



Although the article says 'But his dream is to coach in the NRL in Australia', I think he means Rugby League in general.


Well if Edwards can do so well in Union, why cant Jones do the same in League?

Would be interesting atleast to see how he turned out if he became a League coach
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Interesting article regarding Eddie Jones here:

http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/lo ... 14482.html



Although the article says 'But his dream is to coach in the NRL in Australia', I think he means Rugby League in general.


Well if Edwards can do so well in Union, why cant Jones do the same in League?

Would be interesting atleast to see how he turned out if he became a League coach
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: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:05 am  
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Why are we entertaining the prospect of an RU coach. Its absurb and hopefully IL will view it as such.
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: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:21 am  
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I say stop all this talk about SBW its never going to happen and will only make you depressed :wink:
sonny money bill is a game breaker . and he knows it . he carved up teams in the nrl by himself :x
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