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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:03 pm  
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An option but based purely on what I’ve seen so far of French at HB in a Wigan shirt I’m not considering it as an option. I’m always open for that to change mind and accept a lot can happen in pre season.

On his short time in the role French doesn't look like he's suited to the halves,and given Wigans,when fit, plethora of wingers I'm really failing to see the logic of signing him, hope it becomes clear in the new season mind.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:50 pm  
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On his short time in the role French doesn't look like he's suited to the halves,and given Wigans,when fit, plethora of wingers I'm really failing to see the logic of signing him, hope it becomes clear in the new season mind.



Has anyone thought they may move ZAK to either 4 or 6 and play french at 1
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:00 am  
It’s common place to play split halves with the full back linking in the line, I wonder if we’ll approach that concept slightly differently playing with Hastings controlling the play and Zac linking one side, French linking the other?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:34 am  
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Has anyone thought they may move ZAK to either 4 or 6 and play french at 1


Has Hardaker ever played 6?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:46 am  
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Mate Tommy is no longer good enough for the 7 jersey - it’s not just me saying that either, plenty of others are too. His past exploits, as good as they were are utterly irrelevant in this conversation.

There’s no denying Smith hasn’t played against top grade opposition, it’s just pure fact. He’s been out on dual reg with Swinton and looked very impressive as he has been in the academy all season. He deserves a shot.

Failing that it’s a straight shoot between an aging and not good enough Tommy or a well below standard Sammut in the halves. No thanks.


You've missed my point. I'm referring to your remarks saying it's laughable to have Tommy as our 7. I was pointing out why Tommy is far more suitable and qualified at this stage in his career to be our starting 7 that Smith who's played only minutes at SL level. Surely that's just obvious...or should be.

I'm not saying Smith isn't good or won't be a world beater, truth is; no one really knows just yet. But to throw him at the deep end isn't only a massive risk for the team, but also irresponsible of the club to put so much pressure and expectation on such a young man who's barely played SL.

I don't think giving Smith the starting role in the first team should even be debated to the honest, it's that worrying of a shout.

I reiterate what I said previously, develop Smith properly; like we do our young halves. Let him develop in stages, he's passed the test so far, give him the next step up and see how he deals with it. Then if he's continually improving in time he'll earn and naturally become our starting half.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:34 am  
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Has Hardaker ever played 6?


Yes, at Leeds. But if he lacks creativity as a 1 he's not going to suddenly find it as a 6.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:37 am  
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It’s common place to play split halves with the full back linking in the line, I wonder if we’ll approach that concept slightly differently playing with Hastings controlling the play and Zac linking one side, French linking the other?


Slightly, but...

Hastings to control the movement and play either side of the ruck getting the ball from the dummy half acting as a primary first receiver. French is used more as a running half playing out wide of Hastings, given freedom attacking either side of the pitch.

This leaves the full back role to be used as a down the centre support player and broken field runner.

This formation suits our attacking players more than any other.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:30 pm  
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You've missed my point. I'm referring to your remarks saying it's laughable to have Tommy as our 7. I was pointing out why Tommy is far more suitable and qualified at this stage in his career to be our starting 7 that Smith who's played only minutes at SL level. Surely that's just obvious...or should be.

I'm not saying Smith isn't good or won't be a world beater, truth is; no one really knows just yet. But to throw him at the deep end isn't only a massive risk for the team, but also irresponsible of the club to put so much pressure and expectation on such a young man who's barely played SL.

I don't think giving Smith the starting role in the first team should even be debated to the honest, it's that worrying of a shout.

I reiterate what I said previously, develop Smith properly; like we do our young halves. Let him develop in stages, he's passed the test so far, give him the next step up and see how he deals with it. Then if he's continually improving in time he'll earn and naturally become our starting half.


For fear of going round in circles - we’ll agree to disagree.

FWIW I see your points and they are valid concerns to raise.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:32 pm  
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On his short time in the role French doesn't look like he's suited to the halves,and given Wigans,when fit, plethora of wingers I'm really failing to see the logic of signing him, hope it becomes clear in the new season mind.


Pretty much summed up my train of thoughts too.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:13 pm  
He left Parra as he didn't want to play wing. With Hardaker at fb then they must have given him a good indication of where he will play.
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