Re: Hardaker? : Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:40 am  

Shabino wrote:

I don’t know, but it’s nothing illegal or dangerous, so I’m wondering too why the sacking?

Yet you've made a statement that whatever it was wasn't bad enough to justify a sacking. At the same time you're now admitting you don't actually know what he's done. Which is it?

Re: Hardaker? : Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:42 am  

Do fans and the GBP have a right to know exactly what ZH did or didn't do? So we can all get up on our hind legs and pontificate about whether sacking him is justified or not?

I'd say no. Matty Peet is right to draw a line under it, I think. Which, of course, is as much for Zak's benefit as anyone else's.

Re: Hardaker? : Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:57 am  

moto748 wrote:

Do fans and the GBP have a right to know exactly what ZH did or didn't do? So we can all get up on our hind legs and pontificate about whether sacking him is justified or not?

I'd say no. Matty Peet is right to draw a line under it, I think. Which, of course, is as much for Zak's benefit as anyone else's.

Yeah fair point. Not a lot of point getting into rumours. I suppose I wanted to stick up a bit for Zak as I’m a dad with young kids too, and I work away fair bit as-well….

Re: Hardaker? : Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:59 am  

Shabino wrote:

I don’t know, but it’s nothing illegal or dangerous, so I’m wondering too why the sacking?

Wigan obviously have enough reason to sack Hardaker, otherwise his agent and solicitor would be after Wigan for unfair dismissal. They will have gone through all the legal procedures no doubt.

Re: Hardaker? : Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:02 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Wigan obviously have enough reason to sack Hardaker, otherwise his agent and solicitor would be after Wigan for unfair dismissal. They will have gone through all the legal procedures no doubt.

I think he wanted out too though and maybe it was a mutual decision, more than a sacking …..

Re: Hardaker? : Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:11 am  

Shabino wrote:

I think he wanted out too though and maybe it was a mutual decision, more than a sacking …..

I’m starting to think you are his mum.

He has been sacked.

Read the press releases and quotes from Peet. HR, club directors and the owner followed due process to ensure there was no legal comeback.

His actions were in breach of club standards and he was sacked.

Just because he is more than likely going to Leeds for half a season you need to stop trying to put a rose tinted slant on it.

For what it’s worth I didn’t want Zak at Wigan to start with however he got his head down and proved me wrong, kept his nose clean, excuse the reference, and once up to speed was a very good player.

It wasn’t long till the cracks started showing though the same issues started to creep in off the field and his antics started off the field.

Wigan reacted by trying to take him out of his negative environment and he seemed to settle again….but once again not for long.

It all started to go wrong again when he started heading home more and whilst his behaviour off the field away from rugby seemed more settled the cracks started showing again with talk of him being homesick and the commute, ironic given he is in talks with Leigh because they are offering him silly money.

The decline started when he went public to the press with his thoughts about being the best fullback in England, and getting totally owned by Tomkins.

On field performances started to fall away, and once again the moaning about the commute became more vocal.

His performance after the Wakefield game was I’m told totally embarrassing. Threw his toys out the pram because he was expected to get on the bus with the group back to Wigan.

He is an undoubted talent and I’m sure in the short term wherever he turns up at he will have a good impact on the team, it won’t be long though till the cracks start to show.

Re: Hardaker? : Sat Apr 23, 2022 12:10 pm  

jonh wrote:

I’m starting to think you are his mum.

He has been sacked.

Read the press releases and quotes from Peet. HR, club directors and the owner followed due process to ensure there was no legal comeback.

His actions were in breach of club standards and he was sacked.

Just because he is more than likely going to Leeds for half a season you need to stop trying to put a rose tinted slant on it.

For what it’s worth I didn’t want Zak at Wigan to start with however he got his head down and proved me wrong, kept his nose clean, excuse the reference, and once up to speed was a very good player.

It wasn’t long till the cracks started showing though the same issues started to creep in off the field and his antics started off the field.

Wigan reacted by trying to take him out of his negative environment and he seemed to settle again….but once again not for long.

It all started to go wrong again when he started heading home more and whilst his behaviour off the field away from rugby seemed more settled the cracks started showing again with talk of him being homesick and the commute, ironic given he is in talks with Leigh because they are offering him silly money.

The decline started when he went public to the press with his thoughts about being the best fullback in England, and getting totally owned by Tomkins.

On field performances started to fall away, and once again the moaning about the commute became more vocal.

His performance after the Wakefield game was I’m told totally embarrassing. Threw his toys out the pram because he was expected to get on the bus with the group back to Wigan.

He is an undoubted talent and I’m sure in the short term wherever he turns up at he will have a good impact on the team, it won’t be long though till the cracks start to show.

Yeah fair play. Now that you’ve explained it so well, a parting of ways Is completely for the best.
Fwiw most Leeds fans I know don’t what him back. I do have Rose Tinted specs yes. To give some perspective he’s the only Leeds player to have won MOS since Iestyn Harris.
Think of all the great players we’ve had since then. He’s a very very special RL player……

Re: Hardaker? : Sat Apr 23, 2022 12:18 pm  

Shabino wrote:

Yeah fair play. Now that you’ve explained it so well, a parting of ways Is completely for the best.
Fwiw most Leeds fans I know don’t what him back. I do have Rose Tinted specs yes. To give some perspective he’s the only Leeds player to have won MOS since Iestyn Harris.
Think of all the great players we’ve had since then. He’s a very very special RL player……

‘Was’ special. He’s nothing of the sort any more. Time and behaviour have caught him up.

Re: Hardaker? : Sat Apr 23, 2022 12:19 pm  

Shabino wrote:

He was a very very special RL player……

Correction.

Was a great player 5 years ago.

Re: Hardaker? : Sat Apr 23, 2022 12:27 pm  

NSW wrote:

Correction.
Was a great player 5 years ago.

He did a good job for you guys didn’t he? Didn’t he win player of season. With the talent you have that takes some doing…….