Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:51 am  

RobRiches wrote:

Guided lmao. He literally did nothing other than kick some goals. He was the worst player on the pitch lol

Still played SOO though

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:55 am  

jonh wrote:

Name me any player that is in their prime at 34?

At 28/9 he was the Australian playmaker.

In the 2018 series he played all 3 games.

2019 he was dropped but selected for game 2.

He was obviously a great play maker and a great player for Catalans (which I think you were saying he wasn’t so I find it odd you are now maybe saying he was?).

The pattern over the years before he joined Catalans wasn’t one of a player on an upwards trajectory though.

No what I am saying some SL players were better,I didnt say he was bad.
I just dont say everyone who has been in NRL are better than the SL players I just comment not all NRL players who come over who the superior than SL players.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:40 am  

Jason65 wrote:

No what I am saying some SL players were better,I didnt say he was bad.
I just dont say everyone who has been in NRL are better than the SL players I just comment not all NRL players who come over who the superior than SL players.

It’s odd then that he was selected as the Dream Team half in 2021.

I don’t think anyone said all NRL players who come over are superior to SL players so I’m not sure of your point.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:42 am  

jonh wrote:

Name me any player that is in their prime at 34?

At 28/9 he was the Australian playmaker.

In the 2018 series he played all 3 games.

2019 he was dropped but selected for game 2.

He was obviously a great play maker and a great player for Catalans (which I think you were saying he wasn’t so I find it odd you are now maybe saying he was?).

The pattern over the years before he joined Catalans wasn’t one of a player on an upwards trajectory though.

Was May on a upward trajectory,if Catalan with all their ex NRL players could not win the GF maybe just maybe they arn't as brilliant as you think they are.I remember Wigan beating Manly with only British players in our side . Now you will come back with Manly were not that interested and anything else you can to denigrate what we achieved .It all comes down to belief in my opinion .

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:43 am  

jonh wrote:

It’s odd then that he was selected as the Dream Team half in 2021.

So he is a good player then.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:45 am  

jonh wrote:

It’s odd then that he was selected as the Dream Team half in 2021.

Of course every player when selected is the best player in that position they are selected in .

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:51 am  

jonh wrote:

It’s odd then that he was selected as the Dream Team half in 2021.

I don’t think anyone said all NRL players who come over are superior to SL players so I’m not sure of your point.

My point is all the best players are not NRL players as I think we have some pretty good players we did win a test series against NRL players,but as you did point out they did have some players missing,we also did have some missing aswell.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:54 am  

Jason65 wrote:

So he is a good player then.

What are you on about? You list a player say he didn’t tear up SL (Dream Team selection).

Then you make a random comment saying you don’t believe all players who come from NRL are better than SL players (nobody said they were). Taking this one step further the vast majority of SL players with NRL experience are playing in SL is because they couldn’t get a regular gig as an NRL player, particularly if they are under the age of 30.

Tyrone May is a quality player on a huge contract at KR. The only reason he’s in SL is because he was stood down and ultimately fired by Penrith as it seems he’s an absolute muppet off the pitch.

May is an excellent player you only need to look at his stats to see that even if you didn’t see him play that much. He wasn’t considered a top level player in the NRL but he certainly is a top level SL player.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:28 am  

jonh wrote:

What are you on about? You list a player say he didn’t tear up SL (Dream Team selection).

Then you make a random comment saying you don’t believe all players who come from NRL are better than SL players (nobody said they were). Taking this one step further the vast majority of SL players with NRL experience are playing in SL is because they couldn’t get a regular gig as an NRL player, particularly if they are under the age of 30.

Tyrone May is a quality player on a huge contract at KR. The only reason he’s in SL is because he was stood down and ultimately fired by Penrith as it seems he’s an absolute muppet off the pitch.

May is an excellent player you only need to look at his stats to see that even if you didn’t see him play that much. He wasn’t considered a top level player in the NRL but he certainly is a top level SL player.

No you listed players aswell,All I am saying not all NRL players are superior to SL players,not interested about the age of the players be it they are young or old just that some NRL players arn't that good.Now you surely understand my point,that is all I mean.It isnt a random comment it is my opinion.

I do agree that you will take it one step further and write a full thesis on what you think,which is your want.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:36 am  

Jason65 wrote:

No you listed players aswell,All I am saying not all NRL players are superior to SL players,not interested about the age of the players be it they are young or old just that some NRL players arn't that good.Now you surely understand my point,that is all I mean.It isnt a random comment it is my opinion.

I do agree that you will take it one step further and write a full thesis on what you think,which is your want.

It’s a random point when nobody at any point stated all NRL players are better than SL players.

No thesis required to understand that if a former NRL player is playing in SL they are better than English players that aren’t. None of that is relevant to the discussion myself of Phuzzy were having…or you and I were having.

Anyway seems like it’s run its course and I’ve got presents to buy, wrap and beers to be drunk.

Merry Christmas, have a good one.