Re: v Hull FC : Sat May 01, 2021 6:51 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

As a descendant of Catholic Irish immigrants, forced to leave their homes due to the potatoe famine, can I put a claim in for reparations too? The effects of that mass immigration into Liverpool still impacts the area today.

Be my guest.

Re: v Hull FC : Sat May 01, 2021 6:55 pm  

Pieman wrote:

so your saying people cant forge an opinion a subject due to their race, thats interesting

I'm saying non white people do not need to be told what's racist and offensive to them.

Just as a gypsy doesn't need to be told by me a non gypsy what terminology they should and should not find offensive.

Re: v Hull FC : Sat May 01, 2021 6:58 pm  

puroresu_boy wrote:

I'm saying non white people do not need to be told what's racist and offensive to them.

Just as a gypsy doesn't need to be told by me a non gypsy what terminology they should and should not find offensive.

so your saying no person needs to be told whats racist and offensive to them

Re: v Hull FC : Sat May 01, 2021 7:49 pm  

Not sure if its been mentioned on this thread but would have thought Jake Connor may be in danger of missing the quarter final - looked a deliberate high shot to Hardaker plus use of the elbow on the floor a little earlier than that (again on Hardaker). Would prefer him to play as I like seeing the best players on the field but it might be a question mark.

There will definitely be no shortage of emotion in this game. Keeping cool might be the message from both coaches this week.

Re: v Hull FC : Sat May 01, 2021 8:03 pm  

puroresu_boy wrote:

I'm saying non white people do not need to be told what's racist and offensive to them.

Just as a gypsy doesn't need to be told by me a non gypsy what terminology they should and should not find offensive.

Correct

Re: v Hull FC : Sat May 01, 2021 8:57 pm  

Pieman wrote:

so your saying no person needs to be told whats racist and offensive to them

Well in what context?

Someone calling someone a 'a stupid Scottish c u n t may not see the Scottish person take huge offense however that does not mean calling someone' a stupid Polynesian v u n t is not extremely offensive to the Polynesian on the receiving end of such abuse.

The real question should be why would Clubb feel he has to even use Savelio's ethnicity in the first place? Why not just use the C word? The fact that he felt the need to mention the ethnicity of Savelio to me speaks volumes. I just don't understand how one thinks like that.

I've had plenty arguments with people but not once have I even thought to use someone's ethnicity, race, nationality, religion against them let alone say such a thing.

If someones a prick they are a prick. I'll tell them that. What there race or nationality maybe is irrelevant and has no bearing on them being a prick so why the heck use them as well?

Re: v Hull FC : Sat May 01, 2021 11:41 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

Again - it wasn't "Polynesian" that was the insult. Savelio is Polynesian. Similarly if someone was called a "stupid Asian ****" it's not "Asian" that's the insult.

If Clubb called Savelio a "stupid Polynesian ****" he's saying that Savelio is stupid and a **** for being Polynesian.

I get that but normally the Asian, black or whatever part of the insult is used because the person throwing the insult sees that as somehow inferior or beneath themselves. I've never seen or heard of that attitude with regard to Polynesians. To extend your analogy to call someone a white c**t wouldn't be seen as racist (rightly or wrongly). What I'm saying is I've never heard Polynesian used in this way either. I'm certainly not excusing it (you seem to be of the opinion that I am for some reason) I'm merely making the observation that it's a strange choice of phrase and not one that I have ever come across.

Could I ask if you have?

Re: v Hull FC : Sun May 02, 2021 5:57 am  

If anyone wants a example of why the sports of Football, Rugby League and Rugby Union are having a weekend boycott of social media, they only need to look at many of the comments about the alleged case of racist abuse in the Hull game.

To its credit, the rival website of Wigan Warriors Fans has closed down for the weekend in support of the boycott.

RL Fans should have done the same as social media is now out of control as proved by many of the comments we are now seeing these days.

Re: v Hull FC : Sun May 02, 2021 6:25 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

I get that but normally the Asian, black or whatever part of the insult is used because the person throwing the insult sees that as somehow inferior or beneath themselves. I've never seen or heard of that attitude with regard to Polynesians. To extend your analogy to call someone a white c**t wouldn't be seen as racist (rightly or wrongly). What I'm saying is I've never heard Polynesian used in this way either. I'm certainly not excusing it (you seem to be of the opinion that I am for some reason) I'm merely making the observation that it's a strange choice of phrase and not one that I have ever come across.

Could I ask if you have?

I've not heard it used in this context but there are hundreds, possibly thousands of ethnic groups you could say the same for. Using someone's ethnicity as part of an insult gives it a completely different context.

Re: v Hull FC : Sun May 02, 2021 7:17 am  

Ruddy Duck wrote:

If anyone wants a example of why the sports of Football, Rugby League and Rugby Union are having a weekend boycott of social media, they only need to look at many of the comments about the alleged case of racist abuse in the Hull game.

To its credit, the rival website of Wigan Warriors Fans has closed down for the weekend in support of the boycott.

RL Fans should have done the same as social media is now out of control as proved by many of the comments we are now seeing these days.

I don't think you have understood what that social media boycott is about.....at all. Maybe you could boycott social media for a while to make up for the rest of us not doing?