Re: Edwards provides clarity : Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:06 am  

Lawrence Dallaglio was on talksport earlier saying that although Edwards is a Rugby League legend his heart is in Union and he was very shocked when it was announced he was coming Wigan. He was saying he thinks he might take either the number 1 or 2 job for the RFU after the World Cup.
I was never sold on Edwards with him being out of the game for so long and I think no matter who’s fault this whole debacle is both parties need to move on as Edwards position with IL in untenable.
I will add that even though IL is coping the most stick at the moment I have never from the start thought Edwards heart has been in this move and he’s using the perfect moment when his stock is at a high to bring up the fact the contract hasn’t been signed.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:17 am  

The Whiffy Kipper wrote:

Ian Watson, Danny Ward, Chris Chester, Jesus, Some fans really do have no ambition

All of the above coaches have more experience of coaching in Super League than our last two coaches and the guy over the lump, plus our incumbent caretaker coach. Watson has done a great job at Salford under immense pressure for years now whilst still managing to play a brand of rugby that all Wigan fans would like to see, not 1 man barges followed by a kick or aimlessly flinging poor passes from wing to wing with no actual go forward. I think he deserves a shot at a supposedly bigger club, who knows what he might achieve with some poor players released, leaving some decent players to choose from, plus if we were to sign 4 or 5 more.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:18 am  

WARRIOR5 wrote:

I think it’s a bit premature to be worrying about relegation just yet, for both Wigan and Leeds. There’s such a long way to go yet we have shown signs against Saints, Roosters and Wire to say we will be OK. Of course I’m not saying it won’t happen, but a few months of the same form before it becomes “very real” in my opinion.

leeds said that last year and stayed up by a win.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:22 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

leeds said that last year and stayed up by a win.

Different format this year. I thought “Wigan week” was over, yet you’re still here looking for reactions.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:49 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

leeds said that last year and stayed up by a win.

As the last poster says, your not fooling anyone.
I like a chat with any fan from any club but almost zero posts in 2 years and then a bit of a whiff of trouble at Wigan and some losses and your over here giving us the benefit of your wisdom 24/7. I think that speaks volumes.

The irony of it is though is that for the first time in a long time we could actually benefit from your expertise and wisdom.

How do you cope being a fan of a team that is a laughing stock and an embarrassment?

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:54 am  

CobraCraig wrote:

Lawrence Dallaglio was on talksport earlier saying that although Edwards is a Rugby League legend his heart is in Union and he was very shocked when it was announced he was coming Wigan. He was saying he thinks he might take either the number 1 or 2 job for the RFU after the World Cup.
I was never sold on Edwards with him being out of the game for so long and I think no matter who’s fault this whole debacle is both parties need to move on as Edwards position with IL in untenable.
I will add that even though IL is coping the most stick at the moment I have never from the start thought Edwards heart has been in this move and he’s using the perfect moment when his stock is at a high to bring up the fact the contract hasn’t been signed.

The more I think about this the more I believe the club have been naive and foolish and IL and KR have inflicted irreperable damage on themselves by their belief that everything was OK. Indeed when he came out with his "if it happens " comment a few weeks ago they should have been down to Cardiff with a contract in their hot little hands ready for him to sign, who knows maybe they did and he refused to sign it as he was already negotiating with other interested parties. However I have no doubt that the club and SE had a gentlemans verbal agreement in place which for the self proclaimed man of integrity I never break a contract Mr Edwards, was seemingly happy to go along with at the time. If he wanted something on paper then surely he should have insisted on this from the outset.
He attended the pre season game at the Skolars, I believe he has been to Orrell, he has had discussions with Lam about the direction of the team and possible recruitment if what you read and hear is true, so why should the club not think that he is being sincere in what he has publicly stated that he wants to coach Wigan.
Now that the reality of SE leaving Union has sunk in, the people running the game have obviously been sounding him out and he has revealed that no contract has been signed although the man has a verbal agreement in place. So someone from the dark side whether that is Wasps, England, or some Welsh club have stroked his massive ego and wafted a wad under Mr. Integritys nose, and all of a sudden SE goes to press crying that he is no longer wanted at Wigan or words to that effect, effectively starting a bidding war between Wigan and RU for his services.
The club has been badly damaged by this with both parties being culpable, my own personal opinion is that a line is drawn under this ASAP, and SE stays in union well away from Wigan. As the caretaker coach part of the original plan is now defunct, Lammy should be thanked for his services and a new full time coach appointed, because unless we have something to distract ourselves from this such as a winning team playing good rugby, this is going to fester for a long while yet which neither the club, players or fans need.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:10 am  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

Nicky, surely the first ambition of any club is to have the ability to pay up to the cap? By referring to “cutting the wage bill” am I to infer that we are or will be paying under the cap and, if so, that this is a strategic decision? If true that is an outrage for a club the size of Wigan. First team comes first, surely? All the poncing about with extraneous activities (if spending on such detracts from investment in the squad) should be secondary imo.

If we’re paying up to the cap as things stand then there are players in this squad being paid far more then their value, given the wages we’ve got off the books. Once we take Williams off marquee then even if we replace him with another marquee player, we’ll throw away that extra dispensation for it being a homegrown marquee player. If Lockers calls it quits I believe we lost some dispensation he gets as well and I’m not sure we have another player who qualifies to get that.

We may go up to the base level of the cap next year but I’m very doubtful we’ll be using things like the two marquee spots or finding additional space by getting that dispensation Lockers gets, so in real terms our spend will be well under what would be allowed and certainly well under what a few other clubs will be spending. I hope I’m wrong and we squeeze every inch of space we can out if the cap rules because if we do then we’ll have signed some pretty exciting players.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:25 am  

Things have changed my view.

I had a conversation this morning with a chap who is high up in the echelons of the club’s management. (I’ll not disclose who so don’t even ask).

What I will say is that Edwards has shat on the club from a great height and the club has acted entirely properly all the way through. There is absolutely no wrong doing by Rads, IL or anybody but Edwards and he will never have my respect again. My view of him has been completely ruined by his inexcusable actions.

When it all comes out and I hope the club gives the full details, believe me it’s astonishing.

I actually applaud the club for their extreme professionalism and for maintaining such a dignified approach which has restored my faith in them.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:30 am  

WARRIOR5 wrote:

I think it’s a bit premature to be worrying about relegation just yet, for both Wigan and Leeds. There’s such a long way to go yet we have shown signs against Saints, Roosters and Wire to say we will be OK. Of course I’m not saying it won’t happen, but a few months of the same form before it becomes “very real” in my opinion.

While I agree with you it’s never to early given the current state of the team to be talking about relegation,now I do t think it’ll happen but clubs that you’d have bet your shirt on before seasons statt,London have got 6 points already,the sooner points are picked up the better.

Re: Edwards provides clarity : Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:32 am  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Things have changed my view.

I had a conversation this morning with a chap who is high up in the echelons of the club’s management. (I’ll not disclose who so don’t even ask).

What I will say is that Edwards has shat on the club from a great height and the club has acted entirely properly all the way through. There is absolutely no wrong doing by Rads, IL or anybody but Edwards and he will never have my respect again. My view of him has been completely ruined by his inexcusable actions.

When it all comes out and I hope the club gives the full details, believe me it’s astonishing.

I actually applaud the club for their extreme professionalism and for maintaining such a dignified approach which has restored my faith in them.

Agreed. Like I said earlier I foresee a lengthy legal process should we want to go down that route.

Rads needs to gets on the phone to Shane Flanagan's agent immediately.