Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:01 pm  

Black Sam Bellamy wrote:

Sad thing is that Sims is absolute crap. Cheap shot after cheap shot, but he was certainly the boss last night.

I wouldn't say he is crap, but i know where you're coming from. Certainly any one of our forwards should be capable of doing what he does.

On a similar note, in the Salford game Morley made more metres, made more tackles and took more hit ups than any of our props. It is a sad situation when a 37 year old has-been (though undoubtedly a great has-been, but you get the point) is showing more willing than all of your props..

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:02 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

One thing that struck me last night was the performance of Sims. He demanded the ball twice every set and put himself in the position to receive the ball.

Now, he struggled at first and people were starting to say that he was the worst of the three brothers, and that he was another Asotasi etc. But what he has done, through sheer effort and will, is make himself a leader. You can see it quite clearly now.

I understand people who want to blame Waney, but my finger is pointed firmly in the direction of the players. Have some pride in the shirt and do what Sims has done.

In comparison we had Mossop who if not careful will start to get pinned for voluntary tackles the way he's dying with the ball!! He's on the floor before they've got near him.

Mossop, Flower and Crosby are killing us at the moment. Well either they are or the tactics of how they're being used are.

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:11 pm  

Black Sam Bellamy wrote:

Sad thing is that Sims is absolute crap. Cheap shot after cheap shot, but he was certainly the boss last night.

He certainly isn't absolute crap, we have Roy Asotasi to benchmark that against!

He's grown as the season has progressed and as mentioned is turning into a bit of a leader out there. Yesterday was the first time I've seen him get really stuck in, along with Westwood he was certainly bossing the Wigan forwards.

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:34 pm  

The astonishing thing about Crosby(?) is that around the 70th minute he suddenly perked up and decided he want to fight someone during a scrum. His teammates might wonder why he waited until the game was effectively over to show some aggression.

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:35 pm  

I wouldn't say that Sims is crap (or the worst brother), but he's never been short of a cheap shot.

I did wonder what on earth Sam Tomkins made of it, watching on from NZ. He's probably wondering what the hell he's let himself in for.

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:38 pm  

moto748 wrote:

I did wonder what on earth Sam Tomkins made of it, watching on from NZ. He's probably wondering what the hell he's let himself in for.

I think watching some of Sam's recent displays, the feeling might be mutual!!!

Let's hope we are good for each other (Wigan and Sam I mean).

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:41 pm  

At one point Daryl knocked Mossop over like he was a skittle in a bowling alley & Daryl is no monster.
Our pack totally dominated and thats where the game was won.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:52 pm  

moto748 wrote:

I wouldn't say that Sims is crap (or the worst brother), but he's never been short of a cheap shot.

I did wonder what on earth Sam Tomkins made of it, watching on from NZ. He's probably wondering what the hell he's let himself in for.

I'm sure he was picked up by that Embarrassing flag that came out right at the end of the game.

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:58 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

In comparison we had Mossop who if not careful will start to get pinned for voluntary tackles the way he's dying with the ball!! He's on the floor before they've got near him.

Mossop, Flower and Crosby are killing us at the moment. Well either they are or the tactics of how they're being used are.

Flower should have been used at loose IMO, that worked really well I'm 2013. He got through a ton of defence (49 tackles!). Agree about Mossop and Crosby, would add Patrick to that as well. Sutton didn't offer much either

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:59 pm  

If I were the Mugwump this board thinks I am I would demand an apology from the lot of you for pointing out what I felt was an obvious frailty in the pack over sixteen months ago - only to be labelled a "troll".

But I'm far too chivalrous and philanthropic to kick a guy when he's on the ground.