Success can be measured in many ways and is subjective from a fan's perspective. If I was a Wigan fan I would take pride in the clubs overall achievements and arguably being the he most famous rugby club in the world. Saints fans will measure success in terms of the superleague as it trumps Wigan and certainly trumps us although jammy grand final win aside, Saints haven't won anything since 2007 apart from the St Helens Star team of the week. In recent years since 2007 we've had some success with 3 cc wins and 2 gf finals so we're not so much of a pathetic club portrayed by the deluded stains fans who are living in the early naughties.
Over many many years being Wire and rugby league fan, I've noticed that stains fans by far contain a conspicuous element of arrogance and like more than anyone to take the mickey, which is fine. But when the shoe is on the other they can't take it, and even worse don't understand why many Wire fans take great pleasure in seeing a boring misfiring stains side containing players with less flair than those found on a table football pole.