Re: Ian Millward : Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:18 pm  

JIMMY MAGNETS wrote:

Harsh to class Higham as garbage he was a good hooker and maybe Godwin and McAvoy did decent enough jobs when needed

Higham would’ve been a class player for the club in another time. He was pretty good as it was but put him in that 2010/11 team for example, playing as a bench hooker behind Micky Mac and we’d have lauded him as the quality impact hooker he was. Sadly around that 4 or 5 year period we were putting square pegs in round holes on a consistent basis. As bad as Moran was for us, he was another player asked to do a job that was totally alien to the role he’d thrived in at a London. Give him a controlling half to play alongside, a good creative 9 and a more experienced Lockers at 13 and he could’ve played his off the cuff and support runner role to a really high standard. As it was we asked him to try and control the team and he sank like a stone.

Re: Ian Millward : Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:06 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

Higham would’ve been a class player for the club in another time. He was pretty good as it was but put him in that 2010/11 team for example, playing as a bench hooker behind Micky Mac and we’d have lauded him as the quality impact hooker he was. Sadly around that 4 or 5 year period we were putting square pegs in round holes on a consistent basis. As bad as Moran was for us, he was another player asked to do a job that was totally alien to the role he’d thrived in at a London. Give him a controlling half to play alongside, a good creative 9 and a more experienced Lockers at 13 and he could’ve played his off the cuff and support runner role to a really high standard. As it was we asked him to try and control the team and he sank like a stone.

I agree with your assessment of Higham. I think it’s particularly harsh to say he was poor for us.

I have to completely disagree with your view on Moran. He was average at London and utterly appalling at Wigan. I likened Sammut’s signing to Moran’s and I wasn’t far wrong either. Those teams from that time still send shivers down my spine.

Re: Ian Millward : Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:25 am  

I would argue that in attack Sammut brought more to the side than Tommy. He can't defend like Tommy though so Tommy was picked.

Lammy basically said that he wasn't using Sammut because of his defence, which is a worry IMO

Re: Ian Millward : Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:15 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

A signing I think we all agreed with at the time.

I'd love to find that topic, I definitely didn't agree with it.

Re: Ian Millward : Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:45 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

I agree with your assessment of Higham. I think it’s particularly harsh to say he was poor for us.

I have to completely disagree with your view on Moran. He was average at London and utterly appalling at Wigan. I likened Sammut’s signing to Moran’s and I wasn’t far wrong either. Those teams from that time still send shivers down my spine.

He was terrible for us but I thought he was a good player at London, playing in a manner that suited him. He’d hurt us on a few occasions before we signed him. Looking at his record at London he scored 75 try’s in 104 appearances. That’s exceptional for a halfback but he was a support runner of a half and we didn’t need that.

Re: Ian Millward : Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:21 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

He was terrible for us but I thought he was a good player at London, playing in a manner that suited him. He’d hurt us on a few occasions before we signed him. Looking at his record at London he scored 75 try’s in 104 appearances. That’s exceptional for a halfback but he was a support runner of a half and we didn’t need that.

I miss the Moran picture of the day threads

Re: Ian Millward : Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:58 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

I miss the Moran picture of the day threads

Someone should bring it back but perhaps as "crap player of the day" to keep us all talking during these tough times

Re: Ian Millward : Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:38 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

He was terrible for us but I thought he was a good player at London, playing in a manner that suited him. He’d hurt us on a few occasions before we signed him. Looking at his record at London he scored 75 try’s in 104 appearances. That’s exceptional for a halfback but he was a support runner of a half and we didn’t need that.

That not just a better Richie Myler?

Re: Ian Millward : Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:57 am  

You cannot compare Sammutt with Moran as he was just a short term temporary signing to cover a possible injury situation whereas Moran was signed as a player on a long term contract.

Re: Ian Millward : Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:10 am  

We were a far better team last season when Sammutt played than when he didn't.
So what if his defence wasn't the best, we scored points for fun when he started at HB and we actually had a kicking game.