Re: Captains Challenge to be introduced in 2025 : Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:26 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

It won't come up more than once in a season never mind a game. Basically it's closing a loophole that would have been created. Without this, someone could just kick it an inch with seconds left to allow a half/game to end rather than risk the opposition fielding the drop out. You could substitute the words 'in the opinion of the ref' before every rule tbf, they're all down to his/her judgement.

So, to be clear, that's all we're talking about here? Closing this infinitesimally small loophole (has it ever been used?), rather the NRL's current rules on short drop-outs?

Re: Captains Challenge to be introduced in 2025 : Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:18 am  

moto748 wrote:

So, to be clear, that's all we're talking about here? Closing this infinitesimally small loophole (has it ever been used?), rather the NRL's current rules on short drop-outs?

Correct

Re: Captains Challenge to be introduced in 2025 : Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:21 am  

The Reaper wrote:

Yeah I get that, the problem with this current ruling is it actually encourages players to stay down if they've been hit high, because it will get reviewed and if they're right then they won't have to take a green card or a sub.

It definitely is a tough one to solve, there are pros and cons to all of the suggestions but obviously welfare does have to come above all. Thats why I think the best bet is to let the VR review the incident as play goes on, and then can advise the ref who can dish out any sanctions at the next stoppage in play. Of course this isn't ideal as you can be missing out on a pen but at least it stops the thought of "oh I'll stay down here and he might get a yellow/red" as if warranted then it'll happen regardless.

... But if they're wrong they get green carded.

They did get to a point where the video ref wouldn't come in if it was less than a sin bin in those scenarios. I don't know when/why it swapped back again to be honest. Wigan were bad for it, any sniff of missed foul play then they would send Partington, Isa etc steaming in pushing and shoving to stop the game and get the tackle reviewed.

Re: Captains Challenge to be introduced in 2025 : Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:46 pm  

Warrior Winger wrote:

Whilst I agree in principal in what you say it would be really difficult to police effectively as some reviews may take longer than others and there could have been several PTB's before the VR has had a proper look and a try may have been scored in the mean time, so where do you bring it back to, what if the non offending team intercepts a pass and goes the length of the field and scores, do you deny them a try to bring it back 70m for a penalty, the restart would potentially be a nightmare for refs to decide upon.

Like you say player welfare has to trump everything else, especially with the law suit cases going on at the moment, but there is no one fit for it.

Very delayed reply here but I would say if the ref doesn't spot it at the time and it goes to a review, then the chance for a penalty is lost as the game can't be brought back. The review would just be to dole out any warranted punishment to the offending player