Re: CCF match discussion : Mon May 30, 2022 5:23 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

How good does it feel to just think how sick some of those guys on Red Vee would’ve been as Marshall caught that ball? Imagine their faces and their reactions. It’s a feeling you’d love to bottle. Simply Lovely!

It was an amazing way to win a final. I wouldn’t be against a comfortable afternoon instead but you don’t get many moments like that Marshall try in Rugby League. Absolute chaos in that Wigan end!

I said to my mate at the time that it was our 'Aguero moment'. I'm struggling to think of a final where we were losing up to the final couple of minutes, on the last tackle with nothing seemingly on and then bang, winner! Even Manfredi's try in the GF we were already winning, his try made it safe.

Re: CCF match discussion : Mon May 30, 2022 5:58 pm  

MattyB wrote:

I said to my mate at the time that it was our 'Aguero moment'. I'm struggling to think of a final where we were losing up to the final couple of minutes, on the last tackle with nothing seemingly on and then bang, winner! Even Manfredi's try in the GF we were already winning, his try made it safe.

It’s just not done much at all in Rugby League. It’s easier to score a try, than it is a goal, so games aren’t generally as close as they are in football and that’s leads to very few moments like that one on Saturday, especially in finals. The try on Saturday wasn’t as late as the Welsby one in 2020 but you pretty much knew it was game over when he went in (easy to say now mind, I was packing them when they were kicking off) and that led to wild celebrations, the like of which I’ve not seen for a long time and probably won’t for a long time again.

That feeling is just amazing. You’d love to just go back and do it all again and again. We can count ourselves lucky that we were in the Stadium to witness it and not sat watching it on the TV like the Saints fans were in 2020. As much as we’re rivals and as much as they still all clearly love the moment, there’s nothing like being there, going crazy, jumping on strangers, running about like a not right and being with all your family and friends and they didn’t get that.

Re: CCF match discussion : Mon May 30, 2022 6:16 pm  

On a side note, I saw some stats for John Bateman earlier from the game in a post by England Rugby League and it got me thinking about the expectations on the lad. I thought he was good on the day and one of our better players but didn’t feel like it was anything out of the ordinary. He made 17 carries for 186 metres and 34 tackles. That’s just outstanding and he should be lauded but I think we just expect so much (and sometimes probably too much) from him and I’m guilty of that.

Great to see him playing so well and enjoying himself.

Re: CCF match discussion : Mon May 30, 2022 6:27 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

On a side note, I saw some stats for John Bateman earlier from the game in a post by England Rugby League and it got me thinking about the expectations on the lad. I thought he was good on the day and one of our better players but didn’t feel like it was anything out of the ordinary. He made 17 carries for 186 metres and 34 tackles. That’s just outstanding and he should be lauded but I think we just expect so much (and sometimes probably too much) from him and I’m guilty of that.

Great to see him playing so well and enjoying himself.

Wouldn't get in the Saints team

Re: CCF match discussion : Mon May 30, 2022 6:28 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

It’s just not done much at all in Rugby League. It’s easier to score a try, than it is a goal, so games aren’t generally as close as they are in football and that’s leads to very few moments like that one on Saturday, especially in finals. The try on Saturday wasn’t as late as the Welsby one in 2020 but you pretty much knew it was game over when he went in (easy to say now mind, I was packing them when they were kicking off) and that led to wild celebrations, the like of which I’ve not seen for a long time and probably won’t for a long time again.

That feeling is just amazing. You’d love to just go back and do it all again and again. We can count ourselves lucky that we were in the Stadium to witness it and not sat watching it on the TV like the Saints fans were in 2020. As much as we’re rivals and as much as they still all clearly love the moment, there’s nothing like being there, going crazy, jumping on strangers, running about like a not right and being with all your family and friends and they didn’t get that.

There's another side to it though. I think that Welsby try would have been horrific to have seen in the stadium. Was bad enough from behind the couch.

Re: CCF match discussion : Mon May 30, 2022 6:32 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

There's another side to it though. I think that Welsby try would have been horrific to have seen in the stadium. Was bad enough from behind the couch.

Imagine the feeling in the stadium

I just walked out the living room in a huff and sat on my own in the bathroom for half an hour I couldn’t have done that at Old Trafford (well I could but they’d have locked me in).

Re: CCF match discussion : Mon May 30, 2022 7:32 pm  

Rugby league is a simple game. The best team is the one which scores the most points and concedes the fewest. It is not synchronised swimming with points for artistic interpretation. It really annoys me to hear people lauding a negative game plan that allowed the opposition to snatch the victory at the end. That just says that Huddersfield did not get it right. It is the same when, in the football, coaches complain that the opposition parked the bus and would not allow the super rich to play their game. The best team on the day can overcome the oppositions game plan and win.

Re: CCF match discussion : Tue May 31, 2022 7:05 am  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

Lance Todd Trophy voting
Chris McQueen, 14
Ricky Leutele, 9
Oliver Russell, 6
Tui Lolohea, 5
Jermaine McGillvary, 2
Harry Smith, 2
Daniel Levi, 1

Votes have to be cast by the 75th minute but even so........................

If I remember rightly, there was a similar sense of outrage in the press, led primarily by the Yorkshire Evening Post, when Wigan beat Leeds at Wembley in 2011.

Re: CCF match discussion : Tue May 31, 2022 7:42 am  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

Lance Todd Trophy voting
Chris McQueen, 14
Ricky Leutele, 9
Oliver Russell, 6
Tui Lolohea, 5
Jermaine McGillvary, 2
Harry Smith, 2
Daniel Levi, 1

Votes have to be cast by the 75th minute but even so........................

i've watched the game twice now (sober) on TV, and really dont get how McQueen got man of the match. He did nothing with ball in hand that i can recall, defensively solid, but nothing more than that if i am honest

Leutele, caused us problems with ball in hand, as he is a good strong runner out in the centre

outside of that, not 1 player from either side really stood out as an outstanding contender for MOM. Hudds did a good job on their kick chase, to prevent French or Field getting any free space to run into Their last plays, were boring, downright boring, surrendering the ball virtually every time they were in Wigans 20, and happy to turn it over. To me that just showed lack of ambition on the day, and probably the reason they lost the game. If they had tried a kick into the dead ball area, try to force the error or repeat set, then it may have been different but they didnt

Harry Smith or Morgan Smithies from a Wigan perspective were IMO our top performers, but for only 2 votes to be cast for Wigan players just shows that it was the Huddersfield fan club who voted for the MOM awards. Harry Smith, involved in all 3 tries, cleared up a couple of Hudds kicks through as last line of defence. Our forwards, especially Faz / Bateman, did their usual, tackled and made yards all day, but nothing special from either of them, but a Hudds player gets MOM for probably less than either of those 2

Re: CCF match discussion : Tue May 31, 2022 9:05 am  

The Rugby League press has become so Yorkshire centric it has no real value or voice worth listening to. You may as well have asked McQueen's mum to pick the Lance Todd.