Re: Wire (A) : Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:01 am  

Captain Hook wrote:

Any view on that KPP “tackle”. On repeat viewing looks nothing more than a blatant attempt to injure an opponent.

Totally disagree, as I said on the last page KPP is lazy in the ruck, always grabbing and holding onto feet and legs. I think in that tackle he's trying to slow and turn the player to stop him getting up to play the ball, and he's doing it in a way that is dangerous and he should have been called for it.

Re: Wire (A) : Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:02 am  

Captain Hook wrote: Any view on that KPP “tackle”. On repeat viewing looks nothing more than a blatant attempt to injure an opponent. Saw it for the first time yesterday, I will admit that it's a not a good one and I'm really surprised the RFL didn't pick up on it (im not sure they can retrospectively). Deserved at least one match. Especially considering the tackle was made against Clarke who'd just come back from a groin injury I believe. For those who haven't seen it: https://twitter.com/nico_1467/status/16 ... uvr4w&s=19

Captain Hook wrote: Any view on that KPP “tackle”. On repeat viewing looks nothing more than a blatant attempt to injure an opponent. Saw it for the first time yesterday, I will admit that it's a not a good one and I'm really surprised the RFL didn't pick up on it (im not sure they can retrospectively). Deserved at least one match. Especially considering the tackle was made against Clarke who'd just come back from a groin injury I believe. For those who haven't seen it: https://twitter.com/nico_1467/status/16 ... uvr4w&s=19

Re: Wire (A) : Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:21 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I’ve just seen the Vaughan one and I’m not sure why they’ve appealed it (well I know why but they shouldn’t win it) It looks pretty standard in terms of what they’re banning people for. It’s somewhere in between Smithies and Knowles tackles IMO and with other men in the tackle and his feet leaving the floor, it looks pretty clear cut when judged alongside those 2 Good Friday incidents.

It should be a good game. One thing I think Wellens needs to do is to put a bit more faith in young Delaney. I saw the stats from Friday and I presume he got extremely limited minutes. The kid is a good player and can help take pressure off Lees, LMS and Wingfield.

He's extremely highly rated, however he is only 20 and still needs a lot of size on him yet. I know this will sound far fetched but I've seen enough of him at Reserve level to think he potentially could be another Luke Thompson in terms of his engine and running style.

Wellens has been getting his interchanges horribly wrong culminating in a complete waste of a sub on Friday where Bell went off and literally came back on within a minute.

Re: Wire (A) : Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:23 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

You can be sin binned in a game and then there be no case to answer by the MRP. Similarly, you can not be penalised in the game and then get a charge/ban afterwards. The two aren't necessarily connected, which I'm sure you know really.

If Thaler has taken advice from his TJ and decided to use that to sin bin him then he clearly feels the TJ was in a better position to make the call as he doesn't have to listen to him if he doesn't want so the issue is with the TJ and not the MRP or the RFL. Maybe the TJ Union has it in for Saints?

Yes I understand that and I note your sarcasm yet again when I'm trying to make a legitimate point. If I wanted to be argumentative I'd have put KPP's tackle on here which wasn't even cited unbelievably.

The point I'm making is that the MRP have given a "Not applicable" against Lees which by my understanding is no offence i.e the officials got it wrong.Had it have been a correct high tackle then he would've been banned as he has already been charged and fined from the Hudds game.

Re: Wire (A) : Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:29 am  

Stu M wrote:

Yes I understand that and I note your sarcasm yet again when I'm trying to make a legitimate point. If I wanted to be argumentative I'd have put KPP's tackle on here which wasn't even cited unbelievably.

The point I'm making is that the MRP have given a "Not applicable" against Lees which by my understanding is no offence i.e the officials got it wrong.Had it have been a correct high tackle then he would've been banned as he has already been charged and fined from the Hudds game.

You're correct, but that happens to EVERY single club at some stage of the season and on multiple occasions, but again you're trying to claim that Saints are being hard done to.

I've said it before, you can't play at 99 level aggression and then when a player gets it wrong and it becomes over the limit complain about the repercussions.

Re: Wire (A) : Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:40 am  

Captain Hook wrote:

Any view on that KPP “tackle”. On repeat viewing looks nothing more than a blatant attempt to injure an opponent.

A bizarre incident that one. I’m honestly stumped on what it actually was intending to do. I wouldn’t have had any complaints had he picked up a game. The description of what it was would’ve been interesting.

Re: Wire (A) : Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:57 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

You're correct, but that happens to EVERY single club at some stage of the season and on multiple occasions, but again you're trying to claim that Saints are being hard done to.

I've said it before, you can't play at 99 level aggression and then when a player gets it wrong and it becomes over the limit complain about the repercussions.

Two issues with this.

a) He didn't get it wrong hence the Not applicable result.
b) Given we have been on the wrong end of this 3 times already and we are not yet out of April, then I think we are entitled to feel hard done to.

Re: Wire (A) : Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:12 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Captain Hook wrote:

Any view on that KPP “tackle”. On repeat viewing looks nothing more than a blatant attempt to injure an opponent.

A bizarre incident that one. I’m honestly stumped on what it actually was intending to do. I wouldn’t have had any complaints had he picked up a game. The description of what it was would’ve been interesting.

The pulling of a players leg is one of my pet hates, it happens pretty regularly perhaps it will be on peoples minds now. the suggestion that he did it targeting Clarks injury is stretching the argument for his punishment.

Re: Wire (A) : Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:02 pm  

KPP is a lucky boy and got away with one there. That looks like a deliberate attempt to open up/hyperextend the groin/hip area, and if not truly dangerous it's at the least absolutely daft.

Less of that please, lad.

Re: Wire (A) : Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:40 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Two issues with this.

a) He didn't get it wrong hence the Not applicable result.
b) Given we have been on the wrong end of this 3 times already and we are not yet out of April, then I think we are entitled to feel hard done to.

a) he did because the TJ said it was a sin binning offence and the referee decided to change his own mind based on that report. Just because the MRP didn't feel it was worthy of more doesn't mean it wasn't a penalty at the time
b) the RFL must really hate you