Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:36 pm  

I'm struggling to understand a scenario where Hardaker is more deserving of our goodwill than Williams.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:51 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

I'm struggling to understand a scenario where Hardaker is more deserving of our goodwill than Williams.

No, you're right.

The lad who wants more money is deserving of more goodwill from the club than than the lad with a new baby, struggling with his commute.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:17 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

That would make me think one agreement is water tight and a fee ‘must’ be paid to release him (if we ask for one), whereas the other really wasn’t. I’m not sure how you get a legally binding agreement that asks a team to pay a fee for a player that doesn’t belong to you anymore and hasn’t done so for 18 months.

Is this not a similar situation to Harris with Bradford and Leeds ending up in court and Bulls finally paying compensation? Obviously not privvy to the small print and a genuine question?

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:33 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

No, you're right.

The lad who wants more money is deserving of more goodwill from the club than than the lad with a new baby, struggling with his commute.

I'd have more sympathy for the lad struggling with his commute if he hadn't moved 2 hours away from work and was now struggling with his 2 hour commute.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:37 pm  

That Mon wrote:

Is this not a similar situation to Harris with Bradford and Leeds ending up in court and Bulls finally paying compensation? Obviously not privvy to the small print and a genuine question?

Possibly yes. I think that may have been complicated by the fact he went to a totally different sport and had signed an agreement to come back once back in League, rather than staying in the same sport and having some sort of first refusal but like you, I’m not sure.

I just can’t see we’re that ‘decent’ we’ve let Williams go to Wire for nowt, if we could realistically have got some compensation.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:44 pm  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

I'd have more sympathy for the lad struggling with his commute if he hadn't moved 2 hours away from work and was now struggling with his 2 hour commute.

Come on, you know that's a simplistic POV to say the least.

It completely ignores the reason why he's moved.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:51 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Come on, you know that's a simplistic POV to say the least.

It completely ignores the reason why he's moved.

It's not simplistic at all, lots of people have to work well away from their home - he/his family made the decision to move away and given he couldn't get a new club, he/his family have to live with that decision.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:12 pm  

But Wigan only had 1st option on his re-signing from Canberra. That doesn’t sound very legally binding to me. Wigan ask does he want to come back, GW says no, Wigan say “ok sound” and be signs elsewhere.

Really got to let go of this GW obsession. He wasn’t our player to sign to begin with.

As for ZH you’ll find no complaints from me with how we’ve handled it. I have my sympathies but he’s under contract here and if he wants out he pays up, or someone else does, to be able to move.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:05 pm  

Does Hardaker staying mean the Spectre of Thornley Centre is not likely to be a regular option?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:12 pm  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

I'd have more sympathy for the lad struggling with his commute if he hadn't moved 2 hours away from work and was now struggling with his 2 hour commute.

Bang on. He has a year left in Wigan. If he decides to move home thats his choice. If his missus is unhappy then she should move back there and wait a year. Zak is a professional (sometimes) sportsman in a contract. You can't just walk away from them in sport. He should have bought his new house and joined his family in a years time, not like he can't afford it. I have a sneaky suspicion that it was Wakey that wanted him and when we were told Miller would come with a fee attached we played the same game.