Re: Wigan v Saints (h) (match talk not general chat) : Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:21 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Who do you think Wane would’ve picked for England? Dodd would have been in before Smith 100%

I agree with you fully about us not having the requisite back up. It’s definitely affected us.

Just catching up on this thread and I don't think either Dodd or Smith would have made the final squad, I think the fact hed spoken to Jackson Hastings tells you that

Re: Wigan v Saints (h) (match talk not general chat) : Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:34 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

We were without French for the first quarter of the season and seemed to be doing alright.

Yes but then we was just a one man team!

Honestly, i hate when this argument comes up against Wigan, we have speed in our backs so we play a style of rugby that compliments that and gets them players into try scoring positions. If we was just passing the ball to Field and French every play then the rest of the team stops running and scratches their booty's like an u7's match i would have to agree with Stu.

There is so much more to our team than that though, we won the game friday on merit of our goal line defence and the effort our lads put in for eachother, that was far from all Field and French! Not to mention some great attacking play from many other members of our squad. Field and French are intergrated into our game structure, not the beginning and end of it.

Re: Wigan v Saints (h) (match talk not general chat) : Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:56 am  

BoredWiganer wrote:

Yes but then we was just a one man team!

Honestly, i hate when this argument comes up against Wigan, we have speed in our backs so we play a style of rugby that compliments that and gets them players into try scoring positions. If we was just passing the ball to Field and French every play then the rest of the team stops running and scratches their booty's like an u7's match i would have to agree with Stu.

There is so much more to our team than that though, we won the game friday on merit of our goal line defence and the effort our lads put in for eachother, that was far from all Field and French! Not to mention some great attacking play from many other members of our squad. Field and French are intergrated into our game structure, not the beginning and end of it.

You can't go saying things like that!

Repeat after me:

Wigan have pace and nothing else

Wigan are a two man team.

The rest of the squad are "bang average".

Wigan only beat Saints because of injuries.

Even then they only beat them if they play at their best and Saints couldn't have played any worse.

There are no other ways to win a game of rugby other than territory. Saints are the best at gaining territory ergo they are always the best team on the field regardless of scoreline or any other factors.


Repeat 10 times morning and night and we'll soon have these silly ideas out of your head.

Re: Wigan v Saints (h) (match talk not general chat) : Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:24 am  

Well anyway if rumours are to be believed we'll have Hopoate, Makinson, Percival and Sione all back for the play-offs so there will be no excuses.

Hopoate, Makinson, Hurrell, Sione, Percival, Welsby, Lomax would be a dream to be able to put out in the semi - here's hoping . . . .

Will be very interesting indeed to see how we line up vs Toulouse at the weekend.

Re: Wigan v Saints (h) (match talk not general chat) : Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:33 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Well anyway if rumours are to be believed we'll have Hopoate, Makinson, Percival and Sione all back for the play-offs so there will be no excuses.

Hopoate, Makinson, Hurrell, Sione, Percival, Welsby, Lomax would be a dream to be able to put out in the semi - here's hoping . . . .

Will be very interesting indeed to see how we line up vs Toulouse at the weekend.

No excuses, pah !!! We'll never hear the end of it when they've all hobbled off after 5 mins

Re: Wigan v Saints (h) (match talk not general chat) : Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:35 am  

apollosghost wrote:

No excuses, pah !!! We'll never hear the end of it when they've all hobbled off after 5 mins

I fear you might be right about the hobbling! The Toulouse game is make or break for two or three players' seasons I'd suggest.

Re: Wigan v Saints (h) (match talk not general chat) : Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:46 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Well anyway if rumours are to be believed we'll have Hopoate, Makinson, Percival and Sione all back for the play-offs so there will be no excuses.

Hopoate, Makinson, Hurrell, Sione, Percival, Welsby, Lomax would be a dream to be able to put out in the semi - here's hoping . . . .

Will be very interesting indeed to see how we line up vs Toulouse at the weekend.

I hope you do have a full as much as poss squad.

Didnt Makinson,Percival,Welsby,Lomax,Hurrell play in the last semi you lost,Will Sione and Hopoate make that much difference ?

Re: Wigan v Saints (h) (match talk not general chat) : Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:06 pm  

Jason65 wrote:

I hope you do have a full as much as poss squad.

Didnt Makinson,Percival,Welsby,Lomax,Hurrell play in the last semi you lost,Will Sione and Hopoate make that much difference ?

Hopoate is the biggest potential returnee to be honest - he’s the one that means we have three ball players at 1/6/7 - Ben Davies there has been pretty hopeless (no offence to the lad, he’s not a 6).

Compare Hopoate’s classy contributions at Magic to Ben Davies in the semi and you probably have your answer.

You’re right though - that semi final team looks veritably packed compared to recent weeks! The halves killed us that day - Lomax was struggling to pass and Davies was really poor plus Josh Simm served up a bit of a disaster.

All of which could of course happen again - Simm is an experienced back up player now who we are entitled to have to rely on, he just had a mare. You can’t complain about first reserves having a mare - I think our biggest issue that day was Woolf picked the wrong team and Wigan were their usual lethal selves when the opportunities were there.