FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star422
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 17 201411 years258th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
9th Oct 24 16:437th Oct 24 13:22LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
The swamps of Warrington
Signature
The only reason they look up to you is because they chose to kneel.

Christ this forum is dreadful. No idea how that posted so many times, other than the forum kept reloading on me lmao. Won't let me delete the extras either
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1915
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 30 20178 years234th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
2nd Dec 24 14:2618th Nov 24 15:35LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff.

The Reaper wrote:
Christ this forum is dreadful. No idea how that posted so many times, other than the forum kept reloading on me lmao. Won't let me delete the extras either

The other Wigan forum has always been far superior
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star422
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 17 201411 years258th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
9th Oct 24 16:437th Oct 24 13:22LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
The swamps of Warrington
Signature
The only reason they look up to you is because they chose to kneel.

The Whiffy Kipper wrote:
The other Wigan forum has always been far superior

I've no doubt! I haven't seen many forums or even websites in general that are as awful to use as this one in my life
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman32358
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 17 200222 years173rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
2nd Dec 24 13:1027th Nov 24 11:01LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS

For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.

For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.

Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row

That Saints result/performance v Cas was the worst possible thing for Wigan.
Saints are a very proud club and will come out on Friday and throw everything at us. The players, staff and fans will demand nothing less, they'll all be fired up, Wigan beware.
On to Wellens and that performance, he didn't coach Welsby, Blake or Ritson to drop those kicks or Paasi to drop a simple pass with the try line in sight. They won't do it on Friday. Wigan beware.

I'm expecting a tight game, both these teams can defend, there won't be much in it.
Stu M 
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player1228
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 22 20223 years142nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Nov 24 07:5828th Nov 24 07:58LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Won't let me quote you RG but I couldn't disagree more with you. Normally I agree with more or less everything you say but not this time.

We were supposed to have a reaction to the pummeling at HKR which never happened, then it was from the Salford game away yet here we are. This team isn't capable of turning this around in a week with the quality of Walmsley, Makinson and Batchelor still missing amongst others.

Wigan will have too much pace and class in the backs and I'd be staggered if they don't win by at least 12. There seems to be apathy between the players now with Lomax blowing up a lot on Friday even though he was at fault for a lot of our awful attack. Wellens is now in that situation that coaches find themselves in where he has now thrown the players under the bus at his post-match presser. This only ends one way.

This isn't an emotional reaction but I said to my lads walking back to the car on Friday that I can see us losing every game in July. Friday is a defeat and then Warrington at home (they have a great record at our place) and Leigh A are both games we could conceivably lose.

I can only then imagine the fans reactions as toxic given the decline of a team that less than 2 years ago won the WCC in Australia (regardless of what some thought of Penrith's attitude)

It is going to be a very interesting few weeks

Of note is that Vaughan made his debut for the last 10 mins or so on Friday and it was clear how skinny he looked. How can Wigan produce the likes of Nsemba and Farrimond and they look like men in comparison? Robertson is another who is clearly going to be a superstar but at this stage looks like a skinny kid.
SFW 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7971No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 11 200222 years314th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
2nd Dec 24 13:1326th Nov 24 11:56LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Good post The Reaper (I can't quote it for some reason)

I think Wello has served a much better apprenticeship than KC and has seemingly contributed to our success over the last few years. Last season there was mitigation too - an away WCC trip, a severe injury list and only just tipped off in two semi finals (we won ten on the spin between these two games to finish joint top). I think he made some good signings too and there was every reason to be optimistic this year IMO. Things are completely different now though and the longer Wellens has been coaching the worse we have been playing.

Tactically we are completely reliant on a full pack and he doesn't have the ability or the inclination to change things around when we don't have one. The playmakers are either out of form, playing injured and/or past it, but they must be collectively bored stiff by being stifled into repeatedly dropping off passes or kicking for defensive territory. They should be looking for more work but if it's against the tactics..?

Five blokes in the coaching box and not one positive idea or even slight deviation from the plan, even when we are behind late in the game. The decision to kick for two at 4-0 up on your opponents line with half an hour left was the most bizarre, negative and uninspiring decision I've seen in a long time. Simultaneously got the crown even more on the teams back whilst giving Cas the belief that we had fired our shot and didn't think we could score. Bearing in mind this is a team we put 60 on a month ago!

His use of interchanges is woeful and seemingly pre-programmed around these archaic tactics. This week Burns and Stephens came on and made a difference but they didn't get enough opportunity to turn the game our way despite looking capable of doing so (especially against this particular opposition). Last week he used 6/8 on the hottest day of the year, one of which was in the last minute and another one hurriedly made after the player he brought on was playing out of position and got smashed first carry.

Friday was a real turning point for me and these issues feed into the longer term plan of integrating this highly rated group of young lads and balancing the squad with signings and retentions. Can we trust Wellens to give these lads a fair shot at making it when they only get a brief opportunity out of necessity? And who externally would want to come into this rigid structure that bores the fans and players?

Whether he's signed again or not he needs to quickly make some positive changes or else the writing is on the wall and it's just a matter of when he gets his cards.
Stu M 
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player1228
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 22 20223 years142nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Nov 24 07:5828th Nov 24 07:58LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Two good posts there from SFW and The Reaper

Just had a look at the hanidcap for Friday. Wigan are -10. I wonder when the last time was that Wigan were -10 against Saints. The bookies aren't usually far off.
SFW 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7971No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 11 200222 years314th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
2nd Dec 24 13:1326th Nov 24 11:56LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

As bad as we were we are still perfectly capable of defending well for a full game. The price for Wigan to win is buying money barring a couple of red cards but we are rarely blown out of the water.
Phuzzy 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5505
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 19 200618 years121st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
2nd Dec 24 09:5628th Nov 24 00:46LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

I agree with Stu and would be very surprised if we didn't win this one with some to spare. This current Wigan team is simply better than Saints. That's not opinion but is supported by the facts. A team that holds every available trophy, has already pouched the 2 available this year and sits 4 points clear at the top of the table with a game in hand is clearly the best in the league.

However, this is a derby and there are numerous examples of both sides turning form on its head so I certainly won't be counting any chickens just yet. Bring it on!
SFW 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7971No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 11 200222 years314th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
2nd Dec 24 13:1326th Nov 24 11:56LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Our record in the games in and around us (ie Top 5) since Wellens took over is appalling, something like 4 wins out of 15 with one of those being Good Friday where we didn't look like scoring until the red card. This is notoriously a game you either look forward to or dread and I'm afraid I'm the latter this week.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: beetlejuice, CM Punk, exiled Warrior, Grimmy, NickyKiss and 279 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wigan Warriors


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63306
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40841
3m
Film game
Boss Hog
5932
3m
2025 Recruitment
Bullseye
249
14m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
karetaker
23
55m
Getting a new side to gel
bullinenemyl
9
Recent
Challenge Cup
Deadcowboys1
2
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2647
Recent
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
196
Recent
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
31
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
52
1m
2025 COACH Brad Arthur
Ex-Swarcliff
258
1m
Ground Improvements
The Avenger
254
2m
Getting a new side to gel
bullinenemyl
9
3m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
196
4m
Transfer Talk V5
Whino4life
556
4m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
karetaker
23
5m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2647
6m
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
27
6m
Challenge Cup
Deadcowboys1
2
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Jake the Peg
10
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
31
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
52
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63306
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40841
3m
Film game
Boss Hog
5932
3m
2025 Recruitment
Bullseye
249
14m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
karetaker
23
55m
Getting a new side to gel
bullinenemyl
9
Recent
Challenge Cup
Deadcowboys1
2
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2647
Recent
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
196
Recent
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
31
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
52
1m
2025 COACH Brad Arthur
Ex-Swarcliff
258
1m
Ground Improvements
The Avenger
254
2m
Getting a new side to gel
bullinenemyl
9
3m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
196
4m
Transfer Talk V5
Whino4life
556
4m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
karetaker
23
5m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2647
6m
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
27
6m
Challenge Cup
Deadcowboys1
2
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Jake the Peg
10
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
31
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
52
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!