Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:25 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Massively over-rated according to a lot of Wigan fans

On a less argumentative point is it a decent podcast? I listen to "The Bye Round" with James Graham, the BBC 5 live one with Dave Woods but thats it really in RL terms. I watch a lot of NRL shows including the Matty Johns with Cooper Cronk one which could be listened to as a podcast but I prefer to watch that as a video.

I don't think people think he is over-rated, I think the issue is how he has become a bit of a hype machine for Sky (maybe others) who seem to over promote him compared to other similar/better players at different clubs.

Nobody can deny his quality.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:39 pm  

It’s all about the baseline of what Stu wants his rating to be. If he wants it to be that he’s head and shoulders the best player in Superleague, than many people won’t agree and will say he’s overrated but if Stu says he’s one of the best few players in Superleague and people still say that’s overrating him, then I think they’re wrong because he definitely is.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:01 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

It’s all about the baseline of what Stu wants his rating to be. If he wants it to be that he’s head and shoulders the best player in Superleague, than many people won’t agree and will say he’s overrated but if Stu says he’s one of the best few players in Superleague and people still say that’s overrating him, then I think they’re wrong because he definitely is.

When people use the term "over-rated", usually thats all they say. They don't quantify it against a baseline, they just usually say Player x is over-rated.

I think he's a potential superstar given his age. He's far from the finished article so his ceiling is higher. Going over old ground again but I think some of the negative comments stem from the fact he's a Wigan lad.

He's not far and away the best player in SL as I had no complaints with French winning MOS.

I also think the hype is more to do with the fact he's English so Sky jump on that.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:06 pm  

Anyway my Welsby initial comment was a throwaway one liner

The main part was asking NSW about the podcast

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:28 pm  

Stu M wrote:

When people use the term "over-rated", usually thats all they say. They don't quantify it against a baseline, they just usually say Player x is over-rated.

I think he's a potential superstar given his age. He's far from the finished article so his ceiling is higher. Going over old ground again but I think some of the negative comments stem from the fact he's a Wigan lad.

He's not far and away the best player in SL as I had no complaints with French winning MOS.

I also think the hype is more to do with the fact he's English so Sky jump on that.

Agree with all that. The potential superstar bit will need two things IMO- 1-A move to stand off and 2-a move to the NRL and for him to crack in over there.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:04 pm  

When do people think we'll get some movement/updates on who is staying and leaving?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:29 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

When do people think we'll get some movement/updates on who is staying and leaving?

When England are out of the RU world cup

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:53 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

When England are out of the RU world cup

This weekend then!

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:07 pm  

Zig wrote:

This weekend then!

3rd place game is next weekend, annoyingly.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:59 am  

I think most Wigan fans have the same idea; Welsby is a very good player, but we wouldn't swap him for any of ours.