Re: Hock : Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:18 pm  

One thing that's come to mind with all this is the fact that Wigan have said they tried to bring in Gareth Ellis. I'd like to know the thinking behind this. Was it the fact that IL was planning to bolster the squad with a high quality SR in addition to Hansen, Hock and Lockers or has the Hock transfer been in mind for months? I cannot understand it.
Also with the Ellis transfer in mind IL would have known he would have been an expensive addition to the squad (a bit too expensive in the end), but where has the Ellis money gone? Is someone going to tell me if we had of signed him we would not of signed Taylor or Green? I just can't accept that. Something doesn't add up.

Re: Hock : Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:24 pm  

Now would be a nice time to have Joel back, but that wont be happening soon

Re: Hock : Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:43 pm  

No chance unfortunately!

Re: Hock : Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:47 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Saints still have seven players over the age of 30 in their squad for next season, they too will have big problems replacing them as there is nothing in their academy in those positions.

Makinson is heir apparent to Wellens for the FB position, with Adam Swift looking a great prospect for Meli's wing spot. Looking likely Turner & Jones in centres, with Gaskell an obvious choice at stand off for Hohaia, and thats not including the likes of Percival or Wheeler/Foster.

I want a bit of experience in the pack, Forster, Walker & Greenwood will be the next few young forwards to get a look in, but Manu will prove a great signing for us, with Walmsley added to the props.

Not sure where you come up these stories Rogues, how often do you watch Saints academy? Twice a year?
Youve no doubt including the likes of Gardner in youre numbers who probably wont get a look in. Nice try tho mate, concentrate on stemming youre mass exodus instead.

Re: Hock : Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:42 pm  

theres only one stan wall wrote:

Makinson is heir apparent to Wellens for the FB position, with Adam Swift looking a great prospect for Meli's wing spot. Looking likely Turner & Jones in centres, with Gaskell an obvious choice at stand off for Hohaia, and thats not including the likes of Percival or Wheeler/Foster.

I want a bit of experience in the pack, Forster, Walker & Greenwood will be the next few young forwards to get a look in, but Manu will prove a great signing for us, with Walmsley added to the props.

Not sure where you come up these stories Rogues, how often do you watch Saints academy? Twice a year?
Youve no doubt including the likes of Gardner in youre numbers who probably wont get a look in. Nice try tho mate, concentrate on stemming youre mass exodus instead.

Swift is no more than average.
No prop forwards in the academy at all.
Greenwood looks a decent prospect, but not quite as good as his brother.

Gaskell, will he still be at Saints, Rush doesn't rate him.

Numbers - Wellens, Meli, Hohia (30 next year), Perry, Puletua, Laffranchi, Manu, (I'd forgot about Gardner)

Will all these great Saints kids turn out to be like Tyrer, Scott Moore, Magennis, Ashurst, Dixon, Emmitt etc?
And of course Jamie Foster.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Hock : Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:09 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

Since when does seven matches equal a lifetime? Are you a dog?

Doesn't matter, he was a spent force at that point, wouldn't do anything for warrington.

Re: Hock : Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:11 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

Since when does seven matches equal a lifetime? Are you a dog?

Sorry, for some reason I thought he got banned from the league.

[DaveO]

Re: Hock : Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:26 am  

mr ree wrote:

because as well as being a rugby club, it's also a business, what about the other facilities the club has, orrell, central park (pem high) and the shop in the town Centre as well as the old shop that is now the lotto base, all this stuff as well as paying fees for players like smith, green and taylor all cost money

Anyone who tries to run a sports club like they would an ordinary business is on a hiding to nothing and your post is the first one I have ever seen to imply it should cover costs on infrastructure such as shops by selling players. That is bonkers IMO.

It is also equally bonkers to fund the recruitment of average players like Smith and players who are merely good prospects in Green and Taylor by selling arguably the best British back row forward in the game who seems to be at his peak. There is nothing wrong with the club being run on business lines day to day but if we need to buy the likes of Smith, Green and Taylor we need to be in a position to do so without having to sell one of the clubs best players. If the "business" can't afford that on its own we need a chairman who can fund it himself.

That said I'd be very surprised if the Hock sale has anything to do with it being a necessity to raise cash. I think you are barking up the wrong tree with this line of reasoning.

[Frosties.]

Re: Hock : Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:25 pm  

seems gary hetherington has definitely jumped in the Parramatta Eels boat with all this happenings and has spoken to them regarding a centre.

Re: Hock : Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:58 pm  

Frosties. wrote:

seems gary hetherington has definitely jumped in the Parramatta Eels boat with all this happenings and has spoken to them regarding a centre.

I hope it isn't Willie Tonga.