Re: Marquee Player Rule : Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:27 pm  

CyberPieMan wrote: Who on earth is SW looking at in Canada RU or American Poseball? Have I missed yet another memo? Or is he blowing smoke? (http://tinyurl.com/ph9vybw) Odell Beckham Jr we can but dream.

CyberPieMan wrote: Who on earth is SW looking at in Canada RU or American Poseball? Have I missed yet another memo? Or is he blowing smoke? (http://tinyurl.com/ph9vybw) Odell Beckham Jr we can but dream.

Re: Marquee Player Rule : Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:22 pm  

CyberPieMan wrote: Who on earth is SW looking at in Canada RU or American Poseball? Have I missed yet another memo? Or is he blowing smoke? (http://tinyurl.com/ph9vybw) Jarryd Hayne

CyberPieMan wrote: Who on earth is SW looking at in Canada RU or American Poseball? Have I missed yet another memo? Or is he blowing smoke? (http://tinyurl.com/ph9vybw) Jarryd Hayne

[DaveO]

Re: Marquee Player Rule : Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:04 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

The good thing about the salary cap is that the league is genuinely competitive. Hull KR have beaten both Saints and Wigan this season.

You don't attribute that to the salary cap do you? HKR have obviously decided to make a stab at getting up there with the big boys as witnessed by the signings they have made.

They also voted in favour of the marquee player rule.

With Koukash at Salford the number of clubs who are basically frightened of the need to find higher wages is down to four. Why Hudds are one I am not quite sure but they seem to be.

HKR have behaved the opposite of the four who voted against.

Unfortunately pro sport has always been about the clubs with the most money being the most successful but it goes further and because the NRL has so much more money than SL it is the more successful league which may be stating the obvious but it is and the best players gravitate to the best clubs and leagues.

So unless we do things like have a marquee player rule we are just going to lose the best players but ultimately even that is only going to get us so far. We need to raise the salary cap. We could have doubled it had the new Sky deal been restricted to the SL clubs but instead the RFL lives in the deluded world we can support 26 teams on various different levels of funding.

Sure if all our best players end up in the NRL you can still have competitive games. You can see competitive game watching Wigan St Pats but if you want to watch top class RL live, you have to pay for it. If you pay peanuts you get monkeys and people won't pay to watch dross even if every game finishes 12-10 or 20-18 or whatever.

Re: Marquee Player Rule : Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:40 pm  

I can understand aboveus's concerns, and a better and stronger Wigan side good enough to take on the Roosters and co would be a hollow victory if they only faced four competitive games a year. That said, I doubt the fairly modest change on the table now will have drastic effect one way or another. I don't know what others think, but I quite like seeing a few English players thriving in the NRL; the likes of Hodgson and the Burgess boys. But of course, if every top young talent like Budgie, Makinson, Bateman etc ended up there it would be a big worry.

Re: Marquee Player Rule : Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:15 pm  

Seems people love this ruling or hate it in equal measure.

If Sam is our Marquee player then i do hope that the money left in the cap is used to give players like Williams, Rocky, Dom, Manfredi etc an improved contracts and not used to bring in an NRL player on a pension fund holiday. If Sam is not our marquee player then we might have some side next season.

Re: Marquee Player Rule : Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:19 pm  

tank123 wrote:

Seems people love this ruling or hate it in equal measure.

If Sam is our Marquee player then i do hope that the money left in the cap is used to give players like Williams, Rocky, Dom, Manfredi etc an improved contracts and not used to bring in an NRL player on a pension fund holiday. If Sam is not our marquee player then we might have some side next season.

Correct.

I believe our squad is good enough to challenge for honours next year even with no further additions. I wouldn't mind a tough prop or an explosive back rower but give me new deals for Bateman, Sarginson, Charnley, Gelling, Hampshire etc any day.

Re: Marquee Player Rule : Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:24 pm  

CM Punk wrote:

Jarryd Hayne

My thoughts exactly. Is he in with a shot at a gig with the 49ers?

Re: Marquee Player Rule : Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:02 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

My thoughts exactly. Is he in with a shot at a gig with the 49ers?

I think he would prefer the Browns.

Re: Marquee Player Rule : Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:08 am  

DaveO wrote:

You don't attribute that to the salary cap do you? HKR have obviously decided to make a stab at getting up there with the big boys as witnessed by the signings they have made.

They also voted in favour of the marquee player rule.

With Koukash at Salford the number of clubs who are basically frightened of the need to find higher wages is down to four. Why Hudds are one I am not quite sure but they seem to be.

HKR have behaved the opposite of the four who voted against.

Unfortunately pro sport has always been about the clubs with the most money being the most successful but it goes further and because the NRL has so much more money than SL it is the more successful league which may be stating the obvious but it is and the best players gravitate to the best clubs and leagues.

So unless we do things like have a marquee player rule we are just going to lose the best players but ultimately even that is only going to get us so far. We need to raise the salary cap. We could have doubled it had the new Sky deal been restricted to the SL clubs but instead the RFL lives in the deluded world we can support 26 teams on various different levels of funding.

Sure if all our best players end up in the NRL you can still have competitive games. You can see competitive game watching Wigan St Pats but if you want to watch top class RL live, you have to pay for it. If you pay peanuts you get monkeys and people won't pay to watch dross even if every game finishes 12-10 or 20-18 or whatever.

In part yes I do. I am in favour of a salary cap. Actually I think most fair minded people are if they take the off the blinkers of supporting just one club.

However the Marquee Signing rule is really only tinkering with the cap, and as such I'm not against it. I have posted that earlier, maybe you missed it.

I understand your points, but the logical outcome of your position is that smaller clubs overreach themselves, cease to compete and ultimately go out of business. Rugby League can't be run on those principles in the same way that Professional Football can, because there just aren't enough clubs.

Do you want to see Wigan play Leeds, Saints and Wire on a round robin basis throughout the season? Or even worse do you want to see Wigan cast in the role of Glasgow Celtic with no competitors? (Or even worse than that Wigan as Glasgow Rangers?)

Re: Marquee Player Rule : Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:08 am  

I want to see the best of quality Wigan side as possible and if that ment we where to dominate and win every game and every trophy so be it. It would be the resonsibility of the competition to catch us up