If people are looking for the reason why wire fans hate saints more than wigan, then the answer is simple. It's their fans. I grew up in the 80s and never wanted wigan to win a game. Partly through jealousy and partly beacuse its the english nature to root for the underdog. Having grown up and known several friends who support both of the clubs, as a general rule wigan fans are much nicer people. Saints fans are very bitter people, which is surprising seeing as they have been succesful in the summer era. Also, i take my son to away games with his team all around the north west and it is a much more pleasant experience going to an away fixture in wigan than anywhere in st.helens. In fact, the only parent who causes any problems on our side is a saints fan who happens to live in warrington!