Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:50 pm  

hatty wrote:

Maybe this constant switching of players doesn’t help his cause because he never has a settled half back partner to bond with.

When has he really 'bonded' with any halves partner, though? Never, to any great extent, I would have said.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:11 pm  

A pre requisite for any scrum half is that he should be able to pass the ball, some of Powell’s passing is shocking and not of the standard required for a club hoping to challenge for honours.

A case in point being the pass to Williams in the lead up to Gildarts try, only a bit of quick thinking and good handling by Williams saved the move.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:40 pm  

moto748 wrote:

When has he really 'bonded' with any halves partner, though? Never, to any great extent, I would have said.

He hasn’t bonded and that’s my point, but is that down to the chopping & changing or is it down to George himself.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:22 pm  

100% Warrior wrote: Williams’ creativity starts at a show and go onto a sidestep and then ends at being tackled. It’s predictable garbage and it’s happening 10+ times a game. Why he’s still allowed to keep on doing it is absolutely beyond me. Williams is a conundrum. I don't rate him and I think he's particularly lacking game sense, case in point: he took a drive in on tackle 5 last night. However, he topped the table for assists last year and is second this year http://www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... ayer_stats. He's involved in everything that the left edge (our most dangerous edge) do, in the team that have scored more tries than anyone else this year. I can't make sense of it. Though, I'd be a lot more accepting of his faults if he wasn't on marquee wages.

100% Warrior wrote: Williams’ creativity starts at a show and go onto a sidestep and then ends at being tackled. It’s predictable garbage and it’s happening 10+ times a game. Why he’s still allowed to keep on doing it is absolutely beyond me. Williams is a conundrum. I don't rate him and I think he's particularly lacking game sense, case in point: he took a drive in on tackle 5 last night. However, he topped the table for assists last year and is second this year http://www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... ayer_stats. He's involved in everything that the left edge (our most dangerous edge) do, in the team that have scored more tries than anyone else this year. I can't make sense of it. Though, I'd be a lot more accepting of his faults if he wasn't on marquee wages.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:30 pm  

Think Williams is a bit of a victim of his own success. He had a great 18 months or so around 2015/16 but hasn’t really developed since then. You have to consider he’s made over 100 appearances for the club now which is a massive amount for a 23 year old but he should now be a lot more consistent. His defence however is IMO one of the best in the league for a halfback.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:42 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

Williams’ creativity starts at a show and go onto a sidestep and then ends at being tackled. It’s predictable garbage and it’s happening 10+ times a game. Why he’s still allowed to keep on doing it is absolutely beyond me.

You’re seriously too harsh on Williams here.
The lad had two options; the above and the incredibly frustrating, usually crap, kick towards Burgess’ wing. Even when it (rarely these days) results in a try I find myself rolling my eyes and almost wishing it hadn’t resulted in such, because it’s so beige to watch.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:49 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

Think Williams is a bit of a victim of his own success. He had a great 18 months or so around 2015/16 but hasn’t really developed since then. You have to consider he’s made over 100 appearances for the club now which is a massive amount for a 23 year old but he should now be a lot more consistent. His defence however is IMO one of the best in the league for a halfback.

For a half back I agree his defence is fantastic, but we don’t pay him marquee rate for being a good tackler. I really hope that he proves the majority of us wrong because when he is on his game he is a joy to watch.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:55 pm  

PrinterThe wrote:

Don't think it was too bad (as a Leeds fan) but obviously hurt him so understandable sin bin in the present climate but don't think he should get a lengthy ban, thought Isa pulling at Golding's leg at the same time was more poor form and more annoyed at Williams early doors (5 mins or so) pulling off Golding's scrum cap that he went without for the remainder of the game as it was damaged. Given the issues around head damage and concussions you shouldn't rag off someone's head guard.

Not making too many excuses for Williams here as what he did was naughty. But if Golding needs a head guard that badly you’d think he’d have a back up.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:21 pm  

I can’t go with any criticism of Williams tbh. He’s a fabulous young player but he’s playing for a coach that simply doesn’t suit his style of play. You only need to look at the negative and safety first style of play Wane wants from his scrum halves to see how unsuited Williams is to our current tactics.

If you put Williams in to the Cas side of 2017 or the Leeds side of 2014/15, you’d be left with an absolute gem of a player.

Re: Scrum half : Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:52 am  

williams makes so many wrong decisions, tomkins tend to make the killer on that side, george makes the wrong pass or step when he should pass most of the time. Its as though hes not an natural half as in the last 10 years weve had better