Re: O/T Saints v Leeds : Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:07 am  

Jason65 wrote:

Agree about the officials.
2 players=meltdown Yes
Fans=meltdown (small section- Yes)
Welsby= churlish at least Yes
Is that fair to say. Yes

If it carries on like this it will be Wigans fault- No idea why you have brought Wigan into this

See my comments in bold above

Re: O/T Saints v Leeds : Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:07 am  

Stu M wrote:

See my comments in bold above

As a joke Stu that is all.No need to cry.

Re: O/T Saints v Leeds : Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:09 am  

Stu M wrote:

See my comments in bold above

And you are on a Wigan site !!!

Re: O/T Saints v Leeds : Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:16 am  

Fair does to Stu for not hiding. That said I disagree with him in that it wasn't just Percy and Hurrell and the fans (some) and possibly Welsby. The players had been in "meltdown", if that's the word we're using, for most of the match. The constant and deliberate foul play tells you that. If 2 yellows and a red on top of bottle kicking, swearing at your team mate etc isn't meltdown then I'd be interested to see what is

Re: O/T Saints v Leeds : Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:41 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

Fair does to Stu for not hiding. That said I disagree with him in that it wasn't just Percy and Hurrell and the fans (some) and possibly Welsby. The players had been in "meltdown", if that's the word we're using, for most of the match. The constant and deliberate foul play tells you that. If 2 yellows and a red on top of bottle kicking, swearing at your team mate etc isn't meltdown then I'd be interested to see what is

Poor discipline at times was a factor under Woolf however this did seem particularly prevalent against Leeds. Wellens alluded to that and said it was something that really disappointed him.

We played 22 mins with 12 men and now may cop for 3 players getting bans when we already have another 3 doubtful for Leigh

Re: O/T Saints v Leeds : Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:42 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

Fair does to Stu for not hiding. That said I disagree with him in that it wasn't just Percy and Hurrell and the fans (some) and possibly Welsby. The players had been in "meltdown", if that's the word we're using, for most of the match. The constant and deliberate foul play tells you that. If 2 yellows and a red on top of bottle kicking, swearing at your team mate etc isn't meltdown then I'd be interested to see what is

From reading comments by Stu I find him to be a reasonable saints fan (not like some) but I fear that he will lose this battle.

Re: O/T Saints v Leeds : Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:02 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Poor discipline at times was a factor under Woolf however this did seem particularly prevalent against Leeds. Wellens alluded to that and said it was something that really disappointed him.

We played 22 mins with 12 men and now may cop for 3 players getting bans when we already have another 3 doubtful for Leigh

Referring this back to the "meltdown" debate Stu; don't you think the fact that you're even talking about 3 potential bans (on top of everything else) supports the view?

Re: O/T Saints v Leeds : Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:07 pm  

Jason65 wrote:

From reading comments by Stu I find him to be a reasonable saints fan (not like some) but I fear that he will lose this battle.

He is but, as you say, I think he's probably stretching credibility a little with this one. Probably the most un-Saints like performance and reaction I've seen in decades and certainly over the last 5 years or so.

Re: O/T Saints v Leeds : Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:45 pm  

"on 3....1,2,3, You're the scum of rugby league....."

Re: O/T Saints v Leeds : Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:36 pm  

All 3 Saints players banned. Matautia and Hurrell 2 games each and Sironen one.

Interestingly Walters has been charged with a shoulder charge and received a fine but no ban