Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:57 pm  

Stu M wrote:

But when does the game get played? And then the Final gets delayed which impacts on the Reserves Final too. A lot of those Saints and Wigan players will play for the Reserves the week after, Farrimond would be one of those for sure.

At the end of the day you can forgive maybe one extra interchange, but four?? I guess we'll hear more statements in time.

I disagree Stu, even one interchange too many is unforgivable. Ultimately, the coach is at fault.

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:02 pm  

Read something on Twitter/X from a refereeing development officer that there isn't a 4th official at this level.

You have to wonder when any complaint has been made or when the evidence was discovered, awful timing for everyone involved.

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:04 pm  

bazdev wrote:

When I heard the first thing I thought was could it be related to HIA's with whether the interchanges counted but for there to be 4 over we deserve to be booted in a 6 point game having 50% more interchanges definitely benefits us enough to think the result could have gone the other way. Be interesting to hear our reasoning

I bet Rads is absolutely fuming.

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:15 pm  

Who is our academy coach now out of interest? Is it Daryl Goulding?

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:23 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

Who is our academy coach now out of interest? Is it Daryl Goulding?

John Duffy

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:25 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

This issue has been caused by the lack of professionalism of Wigan. You can blame the RFL or the officials but I'm not having that the Wigan coaches can't count to 8. I find it inconceivable they could make four/50% more interchanges than you're meant to and not know it. Smells like taking advantage of a mistake by officials.

I feel sorry for the lads in the Wigan side, and the lads in the Wire side who won't have prepared properly, and the lads at Saints who don't get to compete in the right final and have their achievements overshadowed. But it is Wigan that could have avoided it all.

Tell me a time, as I'm still struggling, when this has happened before? When has a team been disqualified and then the losing team been promoted to the final?

Wigan have to take responsibility, but this is a heavy handed punishment and screams of an anti Wigan agenda.

I've seen far worse and far more blatant cheating happen and results still not getting overturned for it.

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:28 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Tell me a time, as I'm still struggling, when this has happened before? When has a team been disqualified and then the losing team been promoted to the final?

Wigan have to take responsibility, but this is a heavy handed punishment and screams of an anti Wigan agenda.

I've seen far worse and far more blatant cheating happen and results still not getting overturned for it.

You can't possibly allow a result to stand when one team has had four more interchanges than the other side. What other action could they take?

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:30 pm  

WWste wrote:

John Duffy

Might be the last game he coaches at Wigan.

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:31 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

You can't possibly allow a result to stand when one team has had four more interchanges than the other side. What other action could they take?

Why not? Different sport I know and going back a while - but you can let France get to the world cup even tho Henry handballs it in with mins to go?

I know that's grasping at straws, but I'm really struggling to remember a time when this has happened and the losing team is then promoted.

It doesn't happen. Teams get fined, deducted points etc.

Re: Academy semi final : Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:41 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Tell me a time, as I'm still struggling, when this has happened before? When has a team been disqualified and then the losing team been promoted to the final?

Wigan have to take responsibility, but this is a heavy handed punishment and screams of an anti Wigan agenda.

I've seen far worse and far more blatant cheating happen and results still not getting overturned for it.

Wigan have nobody to blame but themselves, It was a very attritional game on Sunday, particularly the second half, Wigan only won by 6 and were probably a little lucky to win at all. Those 4 subs would have made quite the difference so I don’t think it’s overly harsh this ruling unfortunately. Massive shame for the lads and a poop situation all around but one where the finger firmly points at ourselves.