Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:17 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Because StuM and some other Saints fan are crying that they play all their games on a Friday so moving to a Saturday will disrupt them.

Ok, I can see how this one is going. Read what you want (even tho he's not said that) and argue with yourself.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:17 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Because StuM and some other Saints fan are crying that they play all their games on a Friday so moving to a Saturday will disrupt them.

How strange - the only people overreacting here are a few Wigan fans.

Frankly I doubt Sky give a monkeys which Semi they get so no doubt they will be encouraged to pick Wigan for the Friday if this transpires and it will be sorted.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:20 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Football clubs can't just pick and choose when to play home or away. They can ask the league as Liverpool did a few seasons ago, but as with Coventry this season who have yet to play a home game despite being scheduled to do because of the damage the Commonwealth Games has done to the pitch, they could say no. Coventry have had to postpone 3 games.

There is nothing to suggest we will be forced to play away. Latics could move to Sunday (again at league approval) or given the number of people that bother with semi finals just play at Robin Park.

Of course they can. Like I said have we just got lucky that Utd didn't get a home game on the day of the GF since 1998. What about concerts that are booked in 12+ months in advance too?

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:22 am  

What loss of income?

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:27 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

What loss of income?

Clearly didn't read my post then.

A Saturday lunch time kick off (if this happens) means that there will be fans who won't go because they are at football games, given its a full fixture list that day. Also the amateur RL season is nearing its conclusion so there will be players and fans also not able to attend.

A Saturday lunch time crowd compared to a Friday night could be considerably less and therefore a loss of income.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:02 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Of course they can. Like I said have we just got lucky that Utd didn't get a home game on the day of the GF since 1998. What about concerts that are booked in 12+ months in advance too?

You can ASK to play away. Doesn't mean you will. There are a multitude of things that going into compiling a fixture list including policing and which other teams are at home. If you could simply say when you wanted to play away and it happened then a fixture clash weekend would have never happened.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:03 am  

Stu M wrote:

Clearly didn't read my post then.

A Saturday lunch time kick off (if this happens) means that there will be fans who won't go because they are at football games, given its a full fixture list that day. Also the amateur RL season is nearing its conclusion so there will be players and fans also not able to attend.

A Saturday lunch time crowd compared to a Friday night could be considerably less and therefore a loss of income.

Ticket sales are split between the clubs involved as it's an RFL event (sure I read that, but if I'm wrong I take it back) so would only be food sales which nobody really knows how they will go.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:04 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Ok, I can see how this one is going. Read what you want (even tho he's not said that) and argue with yourself.

Stu M wrote:

As for Saints fans loving a moan well I'm sorry but we are entitled to in this case. If we are forced to swap to a Saturday lunch time kick off then there are various factors to consider. AS FTV alludes to, we play nearly all our home games at 8pm on a Friday so the players are well versed in terms of match day preparation, sleep, eating habits etc. That changes to a 12:30 kick off and the routine changes.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:08 am  

Huddersfield Town are also at home on that Saturday!
As for revenue loss doesn't all the play off monies go into the prize pot (after deduction of expenses)? It used to.

I think Bilko said that something like six of the last eight grand final winners have come from the 2nd semi so the extra day preparation argument doesn't appear to be any advantage.
Sky will decide when the games are played to suit their agenda.
No need to get stressed about it.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:09 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

With all due respect to both you and NK as you both seem like rational men, but I those posts are blinkered and neither answer the question of - why should they move it? I'm not bothered about how great they think their team is, or isn't, or how their injury record stacks up. That stuff is all just fluff thrown from fans on both sides.

All I want to know is why should Saints (if it goes that way), move their slot to accommodate a Wigan Athletic game?

The people in the wrong are Latics. It wouldn't have taken much to just say "oh Wigan RL MIGHT be in a home SF that weekend so we'll just ask to play away." It's not like other teams don't do this. Either that or have got massively lucky not to get a home fixture on the weekend of the GF since 1998.

I'll tell you why I wrote what I wrote, and why I thought it initially when Stu posted it.

Because as it stands its a non story

Once play off positions are known we can discuss with the relevant info
As the article says "That system rewards the highest placed team with the potential of an extra day's preparation for the Grand Final - should they win"
The main word being "Potential". Could that be interpreted as potential meaning potentially if SKY choose that game?
Could it be a terrible press release from the RFL that's been interpreted wrong?
Could it be the article is wrong and assumes incorrectly?

As Bilko pointed out, the league leaders only benefited once in the last 9 years so hardly historic evidence that this has always been the case etc.

Does it say anywhere in the SL rules or RFL info that Sky have to pick the league leaders game or the League leaders will deffo get that date?
Aren't play offs and the income distributed differently, so the financial element is not as big an argument as is being made out.

I can see you've related it back to the old Latics situation and it's their fault which is what IMO they wanted to do.

How can the league leaders be guaranteed the Friday game in one breathe, then say that Sky get the pick???
Both can't be right.

As

FearTheVee wrote:

Egg Chasing wrote:

Because StuM and some other Saints fan are crying that they play all their games on a Friday so moving to a Saturday will disrupt them.

How strange - the only people overreacting here are a few Wigan fans.

Frankly I doubt Sky give a monkeys which Semi they get so no doubt they will be encouraged to pick Wigan for the Friday if this transpires and it will be sorted.

Wigan fans over reacting?
Yet its saints fans started it and in the main throwing out all the potential problems and what an injustice it will be!!!

As for the.last part, yip, I suspect you'll be right, and just like previous years the world will move on, the teams will play and the paranoid will have something else to worry and blame and get their excuses in.