Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:59 am  

If the rumours out yesterday about Fielden are true then perhaps Cross has been signed until the end of the season.

It does occur to me that we may not sign anyone for the 2012 season.
Should Coley and Deacon retire and Hoffman return to Australia then their positions could be covered from within.

If Coley retires, we have Fielden, Mossop, Lima & Prescott as our top four props with Davies, Crosby and Spencer to come through.
Deacon to be replaced by Mellor.
Hoffman to be replaced as the left sided 2nd rower by Hock who also plays left.
Our right centre position may well be filled by Joel who could be given the three shirt. He's doing ok now and a full off season could benefit him for the position.
Joel has always played as the right side 2nd rower so it not all that unfamiliar to him.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if we didn't have any signings for 2012. After all what's the point of having the best U20s for years if then you bring players in rather than promote from within?

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:12 am  

Father Ted wrote:

If the rumours out yesterday about Fielden are true then perhaps Cross has been signed until the end of the season.

It does occur to me that we may not sign anyone for the 2012 season.
Should Coley and Deacon retire and Hoffman return to Australia then their positions could be covered from within.

If Coley retires, we have Fielden, Mossop, Lima & Prescott as our top four props with Davies, Crosby and Spencer to come through.
Deacon to be replaced by Mellor.
Hoffman to be replaced as the left sided 2nd rower by Hock who also plays left.
Our right centre position may well be filled by Joel who could be given the three shirt. He's doing ok now and a full off season could benefit him for the position.
Joel has always played as the right side 2nd rower so it not all that unfamiliar to him.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if we didn't have any signings for 2012. After all what's the point of having the best U20s for years if then you bring players in rather than promote from within?

That would still leave us short of a centre if Carmont retires, going into next season with Joel and one of either Marsh or Charnely at centre would be asking a lot. There is also a question of the props- whilst I am in favour of giving youngsters a chance I think there would be a worrying lack of experience in the event of one or two of the props getting injured (and both Fielden and Prescott have had significant periods out with injuries in recent seasons).

Mellor needs a few games to see if he is ready, still if Roberts makes a come back to something like it means Sam could be used back at 6 increasing the options.

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:24 pm  

exiled Warrior wrote:

That would still leave us short of a centre if Carmont retires, going into next season with Joel and one of either Marsh or Charnely at centre would be asking a lot. There is also a question of the props- whilst I am in favour of giving youngsters a chance I think there would be a worrying lack of experience in the event of one or two of the props getting injured (and both Fielden and Prescott have had significant periods out with injuries in recent seasons).

Mellor needs a few games to see if he is ready, still if Roberts makes a come back to something like it means Sam could be used back at 6 increasing the options.

I've noticed we as a club don't like to spell young players, they only seem to get a chance if a first teamer is injured.

For example, we have Deacon, a great player who's at the back end of his career, with this we have Mellor, a young up and coming talent in the same position as Deacon.
Wouldn't it be worthwhile to rest Deacon more and give Mellor first team experience at the same time? Then we'd maybe get more out of Deacon as he isn't run into the ground and Mellor would pick up more experience. With this the cross over from Finch/Deacon to Finch/Mellor would be smoother in the loong run.

Same applies to Coley/Crosby.

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:39 pm  

Agreed - but surely that was the whole point of loaning Mellor to Quins, to gain experience of playing a SL level.

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:42 pm  

exiled Warrior wrote:

Agreed - but surely that was the whole point of loaning Mellor to Quins, to gain experience of playing a SL level.

I'm sure it was but with the way Gale and Dorn started the season he never got a look in. He's doing well at Widnes now but I'd like to see Mellor step up to SL level on loan before the end of the season, much like Charnley did at Hull KR last year and Mossop at Hudds the year before. It would do him the world of good

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:50 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

I've noticed we as a club don't like to spell young players, they only seem to get a chance if a first teamer is injured.

For example, we have Deacon, a great player who's at the back end of his career, with this we have Mellor, a young up and coming talent in the same position as Deacon.
Wouldn't it be worthwhile to rest Deacon more and give Mellor first team experience at the same time? Then we'd maybe get more out of Deacon as he isn't run into the ground and Mellor would pick up more experience. With this the cross over from Finch/Deacon to Finch/Mellor would be smoother in the loong run.

Same applies to Coley/Crosby.

Not sure we've been playing well enough to warrant that though tbh

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:23 pm  

Conroy wrote:

Not sure we've been playing well enough to warrant that though tbh

Agreed, if Deacon is fit then I think he should play, I don't think we can afford to rest him the way he is playing.

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:54 pm  

Guerrier wrote: Didn't we sign a Southern lad for the Academy a few months back? Catalancs wrote: Jamie Acton http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/sport/8 ... gue_break/ The lad was on the scoresheet in the 9s toneet. Great updates as usual from @Warriors_Fans

Guerrier wrote: Didn't we sign a Southern lad for the Academy a few months back? Catalancs wrote: Jamie Acton http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/sport/8 ... gue_break/ The lad was on the scoresheet in the 9s toneet. Great updates as usual from @Warriors_Fans

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:37 am  

dirtbag83 wrote:

I'm sure it was but with the way Gale and Dorn started the season he never got a look in. He's doing well at Widnes now but I'd like to see Mellor step up to SL level on loan before the end of the season, much like Charnley did at Hull KR last year and Mossop at Hudds the year before. It would do him the world of good

But Dorn is the fullback, did you mean Randall as he is 7 now?

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:22 pm  

There's a piece on Sam Powell in the latest issue of Rugby League World for those interested.