Re: Hock : Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:57 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I don't think we'll lose too much with Hughes / Farrell / Tuson as replacements for Hock. I was talking to someone from inside the club towards the end of last season add he said that Liam Farrell was actually the strongest player (in the gmn) at the club, which surprised me. What we would lose with Hocks running we would gain defensively and from better discipline.

My bigger concern is lack of experience, and IF we could sign a good experienced centre and prop forward I think we'd be close to trophies again next year.

Surely not?

If that's the case some of our "bigger units" need a kick up the arris

Re: Hock : Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:15 am  

Father Ted wrote:

Things may be about to change at Huddersfield.
Ken Davy has underwritten everything there for years but has now said that he wants the club to be financially self sufficiant.
To do that could mean he would at look at a transfer fee for a player if his position was readily filled.
From the £Ms he has put in over the years Huddersfield will be into a new financial era if KD wants a financially break even club without his money backing up.

Perhaps KD & IL have been swapping notes on financial sustainability.

Re: Hock : Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:23 pm  

If Ken Davy, Ian Lenagan plus McManus and Moran could get together with some of their progressive ideas the game could really move forward.
Trouble is somewhere in there would be Hetherington so they would end up not going anywhere which is where we've been at for years.

Re: Hock : Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:36 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

If Ken Davy, Ian Lenagan plus McManus and Moran could get together with some of their progressive ideas the game could really move forward.
Trouble is somewhere in there would be Hetherington so they would end up not going anywhere which is where we've been at for years.

Indeed. Hetherington is the last person the RFL and the other SL chairmen should speak to if they want advice on how to run a financially self sufficiant RL club.

Re: Hock : Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:03 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

If Ken Davy, Ian Lenagan plus McManus and Moran could get together with some of their progressive ideas the game could really move forward.
Trouble is somewhere in there would be Hetherington so they would end up not going anywhere which is where we've been at for years.

Agree totally Hetherington has done such a rubbish job of making Leeds a self sufficient team, and successful, he would have absolutely nothing of any use to say

Re: Hock : Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:13 pm  

Good to see the Leeds fans agreeing...

Anyway I've always thought Elliot Whitehead is a good player at Bradford, but he's not a Hock type of player that would be able to easily replace him.

I like the idea that's already been mentioned of Gelling going into the 2nd row, I think he could do a good job there!

Re: Hock : Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:38 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

If Ken Davy, Ian Lenagan plus McManus and Moran could get together with some of their progressive ideas the game could really move forward.
Trouble is somewhere in there would be Hetherington so they would end up not going anywhere which is where we've been at for years.

Progressive = buying anyone available & winning virtually nowt? While losing millions to boot. If it wasn't for that pesky Hetherington...

Re: Hock : Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:46 pm  

jonh wrote:

Where they come from God only knows, thinking about it could Gelling be brought into the pack on a more regular basis.

Gelling in the pack? As much as I would love to see that from a wire fans point of view, I highly doubt it. Wigan coped when Hock was banned and they'll do the same if he is sold.

Re: Hock : Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:03 pm  

Hetherington is not progressive.
Those I mentioned have spent hours of hard work and £ms of money into new stadiums and facilities to increase their revenue. Leeds ground is a dump. Three sides have had PP for demolition for years but are still standing. The Leeds club has more income revenue sources than any other RL and by some distance. For turnover no one can come near to Leeds.
Leeds with their revenue should be in a new or re-built stadium with modern facilities and with the added crowds a modern stadium brings should be averaging over 20k a match, yet are not.
So Wigan, Saints and Warrington have won nowt!
Lets just remind ourselves who Wire beat in the C Cup final in 2010 and 2012. At the same time perhaps mention that Wigan beat the same outfit in 2011.
Wigan, Wire and Saints have spent millions and won nowt? They have spent millions and are in new stadiums and trophies in the cabinet.
Leeds and Hetherington won't be boasting that double for some years yet!

Re: Hock : Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:05 pm  

wiretilidie08 wrote:

Gelling in the pack? As much as I would love to see that from a wire fans point of view, I highly doubt it. Wigan coped when Hock was banned and they'll do the same if he is sold.

we had joel tomkins and ryan hoffman then. well manage but wont be as stable as we were.