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Re: Covid : Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:53 pm  
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Re: Covid : Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:24 pm  
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I got bored after 15 seconds.

Hardly interesting


Can't believe ivw been duped into a link to this guy.
I'd rather pull my own arm off and hit myself.over the head with it for a fortnight then listen to him

He'd probably put Jim Davidson in charge of the pandemic response :roll:
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Re: Covid : Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:37 pm  
Just another cold / flu yet hospitals around the world are struggling and seeing increasing numbers?

Most of the people in intensive care / ICU are unvaccinated. Go figure!
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Re: Covid : Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:59 am  
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Just another cold / flu yet hospitals around the world are struggling and seeing increasing numbers?

Most of the people in intensive care / ICU are unvaccinated. Go figure!


The problem with that statistic is it doesn’t tell the whole story or give any context behind it. It’s just another sensationalised statistic for people to read in the media.

Why doesn’t the news report that the majority of people in hospital are vaccinated?
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I thanked him and went on my Merry way!

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Re: Covid : Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:48 am  
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The problem with that statistic is it doesn’t tell the whole story or give any context behind it. It’s just another sensationalised statistic for people to read in the media.

Why doesn’t the news report that the majority of people in hospital are vaccinated?


Do you mean the people in Hospital with other illnesses or those in Hospital with Covid ?

If you mean with Covid then I'm afraid the majority (Statistically) are Unvaccinated & on ICU's it's around 90% Unvaccinated (As of about a week ago)

Now I'm sure there's going to be some twisting and turning in your reply but it is a statistical fact (See Itchy I didn't use capitals :D ) that you are far more likely to catch, transmit, be hospitalised, end up on ICU and Die if you are unvaccinated than if you are the last 3 being the Key statistic.

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And while I'm at it - If you get Covid there is a far more likely chance of you dying from Thrombosis/heart issues etc. than there is of getting it from the Jab.
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Re: Covid : Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:15 am  
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Do you mean the people in Hospital with other illnesses or those in Hospital with Covid ?

If you mean with Covid then I'm afraid the majority (Statistically) are Unvaccinated & on ICU's it's around 90% Unvaccinated (As of about a week ago)

Now I'm sure there's going to be some twisting and turning in your reply but it is a statistical fact (See Itchy I didn't use capitals :D ) that you are far more likely to catch, transmit, be hospitalised, end up on ICU and Die if you are unvaccinated than if you are the last 3 being the Key statistic.

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And while I'm at it - If you get Covid there is a far more likely chance of you dying from Thrombosis/heart issues etc. than there is of getting it from the Jab.


Afraid that statistic that was quoted has been proved incorrect (believe it was quoted on GMTV by Dr Hilary) the majority of people in hospital statistically are vaccinated.

Regarding your statement about far less likely to catch, transmit, get seriously ill from being unvaccinated vs vaccinated, please tell me how and where you can prove this?

There is literally no way of confirming that given you aren’t comparing a like for like comparison.
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Re: Covid : Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:35 am  
WiganRL12345 wrote:
The problem with that statistic is it doesn’t tell the whole story or give any context behind it. It’s just another sensationalised statistic for people to read in the media.

Why doesn’t the news report that the majority of people in hospital are vaccinated?


Also, if the majority of people were in hospital with “something else” and they just happen to test positive with covid, then why the spike in hospital cases? Wouldn’t the overall cases compare similar to normal periods for same time of year?

Now don’t get me wrong it would be helpful to know how many are in hospital with covid vs because of covid but I am sure the government are aware and factor this into decision making.
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I thanked him and went on my Merry way!

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Re: Covid : Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:37 am  
WiganRL12345 wrote:
Afraid that statistic that was quoted has been proved incorrect (believe it was quoted on GMTV by Dr Hilary) the majority of people in hospital statistically are vaccinated.

Regarding your statement about far less likely to catch, transmit, get seriously ill from being unvaccinated vs vaccinated, please tell me how and where you can prove this?

There is literally no way of confirming that given you aren’t comparing a like for like comparison.


I'm afraid that the statistic that you think I'm referring to, which was an error by Dr hillary Jones, isn't what I'm referring to.
His statistic was wrong as he said 90% hospitalised when in fact it was 35%
Even that though shows statistically you are far more likely to be hospitalised as there are approx (and at the time of the statement 82% were double jabbed) 4 to 5 times as many people double jabbed. Per 100,000 people currently you are something like 10x times more likely to be hospitalised if you are unvaccinated
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What he should have said is that around 90% of people in icu/dying are unvaccinated

Which again shows that, converting it to per 100,000, you are far far more likely to be hospitalised/ocu or die from covid if you are unvaccinated

Not opinion, statistically proven
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Re: Covid : Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:42 am  
WiganRL12345 wrote:
Afraid that statistic that was quoted has been proved incorrect (believe it was quoted on GMTV by Dr Hilary) the majority of people in hospital statistically are vaccinated.

Regarding your statement about far less likely to catch, transmit, get seriously ill from being unvaccinated vs vaccinated, please tell me how and where you can prove this?

There is literally no way of confirming that given you aren’t comparing a like for like comparison.


What is the actual measurement for the “majority of people in hospital statistically are vaccinated”?

90% of the population are vaccinated… so that statement is rather obvious.

What is it in terms of likelihood of going to hospital for vaccinated vs unvaccinated !
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Re: Covid : Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:46 am  
Jukesays wrote:
I'm afraid that the statistic that you think I'm referring to, which was an error by Dr hillary Jones, isn't what I'm referring to.
His statistic was wrong as he said 90% hospitalised when in fact it was 35%
Even that though shows statistically you are far more likely to be hospitalised as there are approx (and at the time of the statement 82% were double jabbed) 4 to 5 times as many people double jabbed. Per 100,000 people currently you are something like 10x times more likely to be hospitalised if you are unvaccinated
However
What he should have said is that around 90% of people in icu/dying are unvaccinated

Which again shows that, converting it to per 100,000, you are far far more likely to be hospitalised/ocu or die from covid if you are unvaccinated

Not opinion, statistically proven


The 90% quoted figure I had seen regarding ICU was “up to 90% in ICU are unvaccinated” which again, miss represents the true facts.

Do you have a link to the above so that I can have a look at it? Btw I am not trying to argue here I am genuinely interested in seeing an article and data to support without a media slant on it.

Regarding the last sentence I’m not sure how that can be stated as statistically proven when directly above you talk about converting up to per 100k people and use the words far more likely
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