Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:32 am  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

The barometer came about because Wigan fans have been desperately trying to play down our acheivements for 12 months.

Do you mean, 'all Wigan fans' YG? Come on mate man up and get on with life. Saints win is in the record books, end of.

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:40 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

I'm very bored of this childish debate and have no interest in St Helens in the context of this game - its about Wigan and Penrith. But I'll bite on one point. How on earth do you know where Jerome Luai is at with his rehabilitation?

I don't but neither did Wigan fans with Dylan Edwards when we were told he was "rested" for our game. I think if Luai plays R1 its telling so lets see.

Wigan fans seemingly angry that Saints fans have the temerity to return serve with points indicating that Penrith perhaps aren't taking it as seriously as first thought.

People in glass houses and all that....

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:45 pm  

Are they taking this game as seriously as they could do? Clearly not (they’d be here if they were and would be playing a warm up game).

Did they take the Saints game as seriously as they could’ve done? Clearly not (resting players not coming off major surgery, billing it as a pre season challenge game etc)

That’s about the top and bottom of it all IMO but Saints achievement was a fantastic one and so would ours be. I still can’t get my head around why that rattles Saints fans so much.

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:48 pm  

Zig wrote:

Do you mean, 'all Wigan fans' YG? Come on mate man up and get on with life. Saints win is in the record books, end of.

Man up? Odd choice of words mate. I'm simply explaining why us Saints fans are now having a little tongue in cheek dig about Pentith's apparent apathy towards this fixture when we've had it from you lot for the last year. And no, I didn't say or mean "all."

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:51 pm  

Stu M wrote:

I don't but neither did Wigan fans with Dylan Edwards when we were told he was "rested" for our game. I think if Luai plays R1 its telling so lets see.

Wigan fans seemingly angry that Saints fans have the temerity to return serve with points indicating that Penrith perhaps aren't taking it as seriously as first thought.

People in glass houses and all that....

Luai has had major surgery and went off in a Grand Final. You know as well as any of us that’s a totally different situation to Edwards and Martin, however much you’d like to try and use it as a counter argument.

I honestly have no idea why it’s so offensive to look at the evidence and think Penrith haven’t treated these games as they would an NRL grand final (that’s both the Saints game and this game next week). They have numerous advantages over our sides, so they should be able to overcome them not treating it as a be all and end all fixture.

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:53 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I honestly have no idea why it’s so offensive to look at the evidence and think Penrith haven’t treated these games as they would an NRL grand final (that’s both the Saints game and this game next week). They have numerous advantages over our sides, so they should be able to overcome them not treating it as a be all and end all fixture.

I don't think any Saints fans are offended or rattled by people suggesting Penrith took last years WCC less seriously then they did their own GF for example.

What is funny is the people (not you) who suggest they're obviously taking this years WCC more seriously than last, in an attempt to play up Wigan's achievement should you beat them.

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:56 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

I don't think any Saints fans are offended or rattled by people suggesting Penrith took last years WCC less seriously then they did their own GF for example.

What is funny is the people (not you) who suggest they're obviously taking this years WCC more seriously than last, in an attempt to play up Wigan's achievement should you beat them.

This. x100

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:56 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

Man up? Odd choice of words mate. I'm simply explaining why us Saints fans are now having a little tongue in cheek dig about Pentith's apparent apathy towards this fixture when we've had it from you lot for the last year. And no, I didn't say or mean "all."

You’re a sensible guy mate, honest question for you-do you think they took your game or are taking this game as seriously as they would an Aussie GF or a big league fixture?

The Aussie sides don’t respect us and you only need to look at how Saints prepared for the away fixture last year, compared to how Penrith are preparing for their away fixture this year to see the difference in attitude towards it.

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:59 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

You’re a sensible guy mate, honest question for you-do you think they took your game or are taking this game as seriously as they would an Aussie GF or a big league fixture?

No mate and to be fair I have just said as much an a post further up the thread.

NickyKiss wrote:

The Aussie sides don’t respect us and you only need to look at how Saints prepared for the away fixture last year, compared to how Penrith are preparing for their away fixture this year to see the difference in attitude towards it.

Fully agree.

For what it's worth, I think Wigan will win next week and if they do it's a fantastic achievement. The bookies have Wigan +4 which is very tempting as I would actually have them slight favourites. (Saints were +20 incidentally last year )

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:02 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

You’re a sensible guy mate, honest question for you-do you think they took your game or are taking this game as seriously as they would an Aussie GF or a big league fixture?

The Aussie sides don’t respect us and you only need to look at how Saints prepared for the away fixture last year, compared to how Penrith are preparing for their away fixture this year to see the difference in attitude towards it.

You're probably right and I've said before if we played them 10 times they would win a lot more games than we would.

However like it or not and what you seem to be conveniently ignoring is that we've heard all off season that Penrith won't make the same mistake again, they are stung, hurt etc. Wigan will get the backlash etc etc

And yet when it comes down to it they still haven't left Australia and seemingly don't give a toss. So if you win don't be surprised or argue if Saints fans hit you with the same narrative. And that's not even taking into account your home advantage.