Re: Brigantes a disgrace : Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:24 am  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Conroy is defending Athletic not football,

Correct

There are parts of the football experience that I wish were more like RL, but as I said above RL fans seem too quick to blame everything on football fans as opposed to admitting there's a problem.

Re: Brigantes a disgrace : Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:06 am  

The issue is not the Warriors fans, the latics fans, the wire fans or any sports club supporters. The problem lies within society today. These type of people live in every town and city in the UK! Rugby League as a "family" sport must work together to eradicate these scrotes from our great game.

Re: Brigantes a disgrace : Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:14 am  

Conroy wrote:

Correct

There are parts of the football experience that I wish were more like RL, but as I said above RL fans seem too quick to blame everything on football fans as opposed to admitting there's a problem.

It's incredibly annoying when league fans try to shift the blame. When there's trouble people usually say "they aren't rugby fans" or "they must be football fans" when it's just plain stupid and moronic but some people want to bury their heads in the sand. Those people are attending a rugby league match, they've paid presumably because they are interested in rugby league - they are rugby league fans and if they are causing trouble then it's an issue within rugby league or Wigan.

I'm glad you're defending Latics. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever that they should even be brought into this argument.

Re: Brigantes a disgrace : Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:43 am  

It's nothing to do with football fans, but FWIW I have seen Latics fans herded outside a train station and escorted to an away ground - totally irrelevant to what's being discussed mind, but it has happened.

Everything seemed to change around the end of the 2011 season. The playoff game against Saints at Widnes was one of the best atmospheres I've ever experienced, even though we lost. There was a great momentum with the Brigante thing and most fans were buying into it.

Something changed in 2012 and not for the better. Sad really and a missed opportunity to continue great work.

Re: Brigantes a disgrace : Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:12 pm  

Orrell Lad wrote:

Everything seemed to change around the end of the 2011 season. The playoff game against Saints at Widnes was one of the best atmospheres I've ever experienced, even though we lost. There was a great momentum with the Brigante thing and most fans were buying into it.

Something changed in 2012 and not for the better. Sad really and a missed opportunity to continue great work.

Spot on. I think a few of the older guys who were running it have left the group and the younger idiotic, hooligan wannabes have brought the whole ultra idea up. Whenever I see them all together, I never see some of the older guys that use to be running it when everyone was buying into it towards the end of the 2011 season.

Re: Brigantes a disgrace : Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:10 pm  

I've always felt the whole Brigantes/Ultras thing more than a bit cringeworthy in whatever guise it took.

Re: Brigantes a disgrace : Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:35 pm  

What it ends up doing is splitting the fans i guess, it's like saying if you're not a Brigante then you're not a proper fan and it creates division

It's like Catholics and Protestants, fighting over the same belief, daft as a brush.

Re: Brigantes a disgrace : Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:54 pm  

Going through the thread there seems to be very little substance here... Some people who saw events, Trolls from other clubs, some people who were not at the ground ... Is there anything official on this? Or is it mainly jaw flapping about one or two individuals who misbehaved..

Re: Brigantes a disgrace : Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:20 pm  

Wigan Peer wrote:

Going through the thread there seems to be very little substance here... Some people who saw events, Trolls from other clubs, some people who were not at the ground ... Is there anything official on this? Or is it mainly jaw flapping about one or two individuals who misbehaved..

Thats the same about any report of supporter trouble in rugby league.

- Someone from club A makes a post saying I saw incident X from supporters of club B
- Other fans of club A come on saying disgraceful, club B should be ashamed of themselves
- Fans of club B come on to say remember last year incident Y from supporters of club A
- Other fans of club B come on to say club A is the scum of rugby league
- Fans of club A say no club B is the scum of rugby league

Meanwhile sponsors realise why they sponsor a proper sport in RU with well behaved supporters from better bred sections of society rather than rugby league the game followed by the dregs of society.

[Durham Giant]

Re: Brigantes a disgrace : Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:50 pm  

Wigan Peer wrote:

Going through the thread there seems to be very little substance here... Some people who saw events, Trolls from other clubs, some people who were not at the ground ... Is there anything official on this? Or is it mainly jaw flapping about one or two individuals who misbehaved..

If you were at the game then you would have known. The fact the thread was started by one of your own fans suggests it is not trolling. Still at least Dave 26, Coventry Bear and 21 -12 are not on here saying the Ultras are the bees knees and everyone who criticises them have no idea what they are talking about.