Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:51 pm  

zakooo wrote:

i am born and bred in wigan now living in the lake district.for a home game its 180 miles round trip plus an overnight stay in a hotel .all i ask of the wigan team is the same commitment from them.i did not see that tonight and several times over the last few weeks.i am not going to slag them off all i am going to say is come on step it up the grand final beckons.

I am likewise born 'n' bred Wigan, now living a similar distance away.
Every game, home or away is costly, both in time and money, I reached the conclusion a long time ago that I have been getting a very poor return on " effort to reward" not just from Wigan but from RL in general.
Friday night games have long been a nightmare for anyone needing to use the motorway to get to a match, but the concept of the Thursday match is even worse as, if you have work the following day you can't stop over. With the current league structure and too many meaningless games I made the reluctant decision to select my matches this season and I wasn't at Widnes last night. I didn't need to be there to witness the effort or the lack of it described on here, I have seen it too many times in previous seasons, in fact I could have almost predicted it.
All clubs (because of the RL) are in the service of "Sky" and once again the, "exiting climax to the season" suits our puppet masters.
In the world of horseracing, most horses are ridden by jockeys "under instructions" putting in just the required amount of effort to prepare them for one of the seasons "classics"
Come the play off's you will see all 8 teams truly compete with determination, and any one of them could win, however I would be surprised if the trophy ends up anywhere other than Wigan or Leeds as they are the only real thoroughbreds in the race this year.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:00 pm  

The performance last night was almost identical to the Bradford and HKR ones. For some reason Wigan appeared to be going too wide too soon, the forwards didn't appear to want to do the graft. It was only when Pettybourne came on that we did any damage down the middle. He was the only Wigan prop to make over 50 metres. In those conditions ball retention was paramount. http://www.superleague.co.uk/report/10073

The performance last night was almost identical to the Bradford and HKR ones. For some reason Wigan appeared to be going too wide too soon, the forwards didn't appear to want to do the graft. It was only when Pettybourne came on that we did any damage down the middle. He was the only Wigan prop to make over 50 metres. In those conditions ball retention was paramount. http://www.superleague.co.uk/report/10073

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:45 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote: The performance last night was almost identical to the Bradford and HKR ones. For some reason Wigan appeared to be going too wide too soon, the forwards didn't appear to want to do the graft. It was only when Pettybourne came on that we did any damage down the middle. He was the only Wigan prop to make over 50 metres. In those conditions ball retention was paramount. http://www.superleague.co.uk/report/10073 Disgraceful stats from all of our props (Pettybourne less so). Outplayed by Eamon O'Carroll ffs. 6 missed tackles by Gelling, 5 by O'Loughlin is poor. 1 clean break in the whole game. Matty Smith conceding 3 penalties - what..?

Rogues Gallery wrote: The performance last night was almost identical to the Bradford and HKR ones. For some reason Wigan appeared to be going too wide too soon, the forwards didn't appear to want to do the graft. It was only when Pettybourne came on that we did any damage down the middle. He was the only Wigan prop to make over 50 metres. In those conditions ball retention was paramount. http://www.superleague.co.uk/report/10073 Disgraceful stats from all of our props (Pettybourne less so). Outplayed by Eamon O'Carroll ffs. 6 missed tackles by Gelling, 5 by O'Loughlin is poor. 1 clean break in the whole game. Matty Smith conceding 3 penalties - what..?

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:32 pm  

OK now its the day after and not a single comment from 1 wigan fan giving any credit to the way Widnes played the conditions or the game as a whole you will end up getting treated the same as Leeds at this rate

Re: : Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:57 pm  

FIOS wrote:

We were playing exactly like this this time last year, not saying we are going to go on and win it again but I'm not surprised at our 'form'

We had just won the cup this time last year.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:58 pm  

Wigan Peer wrote:

So did everybody else, with the exception of Cas...

Leeds and Saints have better teams this year.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:01 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

Disgraceful stats from all of our props (Pettybourne less so). Outplayed by Eamon O'Carroll ffs.
6 missed tackles by Gelling, 5 by O'Loughlin is poor.
1 clean break in the whole game.
Matty Smith conceding 3 penalties - what..?

Gelling has missed an awful lot of tackles all season, his defence is very poor at times. O'Loughlin hasn't been himself this season at all either or certainly hasn't been what we have come to expect.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:45 am  

2 seasons ago we was superb in the league and won the hub cap which in my opinion is pants when you don't go on and win gf.Last season poorer in league and won the double its about winning when it matters.Yes people pay alot of money for all games i gave up my season ticket because of the structure of the league.We will possibly lose are next two in my opinion aswell but if we get to gf you will all be there and all will be forgotten.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:24 am  

Ziggy Stardust wrote:

Leeds and Saints have better teams this year.

We (the giants) have a better side too in my opinion.
Salford certainly do.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:18 am  

Ziggy Stardust wrote:

Leeds and Saints have better teams this year.

But both have been terrible on occasions this year, just less so than Wigan.
Saints have had a couple of hammerings against Wire & Catalans and there were doubts to Brown's coaching abilities. I think we could have taken top spot at a canter but again the performances in the last third of the season has put paid to that. I do think its planned (despite SW's comments), just like it was last year.
Now last year we got away with it due to the end result, this season he will be judged on performance and results in the playoffs.

Its a risky strategy but with high reward, however you gamble with supporters patience when it comes to purchasing season tickets, especially those half season tickets (IIRC last season only one out of the 7 home gamess were won), I bet sales in those took a nosedive!