Re: Forward watch : Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:41 am  

Saints attack is not all that, and quite right it's their speed off the line that wins them games. Walmsley is one of the best props on the planet, but Aussie refs wouldn't put up with him walking off the mark.

Re: Forward watch : Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:02 am  

I’ve just been flicking through YouTube and came across the 2016 Good Friday game. If you want an indication of how quick a club can turn around get this for a Saints lineup-

1-McDonnell
2-Makinson 3-Peyroux 4-Dawson 5-Owens
6-Fages 7-Walsh
8-Amor 9-Burns 10-Tasi
11-Wilkin 12-Greenwood 13-LMS

It gives me shudders at just how bad they were but how good they are now and also hope, that we’re now on the right path and with a couple of good recruitment decisions you’re in business.

They did have a bench containing Walmsley, Thompson and Roby mind, so not all that bad.

Re: Forward watch : Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:47 am  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

It’s like 2019 again.

SaInTs AtTaCk iS rUbBiSH

No it’s not. It’s light years ahead of every one else

Just letting you know mate that it appears only half of your post has been posted. This bit is just you saying "no it's not" so I'm assuming the bit where you explain why it's not has been missed off for some reason...

Re: Forward watch : Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:33 am  

Another test this coming week.

Hill 10 for 102m
Yates 16 for 153m
Ikahihifo 13 for 106m

Gutted we didn’t go for Yates when he was leaving Salford, quality player.

Re: Forward watch : Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:38 am  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

For a big lad he’s a bit of soft arris.
At some point a referee will pick up on his moving off the mark at virtually every tackle and seemingly wanting a penalty for any tackle.

Think Hull picked up on this every time Walmsley was tackled the marker moved back a yard he only got 1 penalty for his forward.

Re: Forward watch : Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:47 am  

NSW wrote:

Another test this coming week.

Hill 10 for 102m
Yates 16 for 153m
Ikahihifo 13 for 106m

Gutted we didn’t go for Yates when he was leaving Salford, quality player.

Is it tactics or player quality why we rarely ever have one prop getting over 100m ? Ever mind more than 1.

Re: Forward watch : Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:45 am  

nathan_rugby wrote:

Is it tactics or player quality why we rarely ever have one prop getting over 100m ? Ever mind more than 1.

I guess we'll find out on Thursday!

Huddersfield are looking like Dark Horses this year. They've gone under the radar a little bit but they look to have built a good team with plenty of experience in the right places. They'll be no pushovers. A result on Thursday will be a fair marker as to where we are.

Re: Forward watch : Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:44 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I’ve just been flicking through YouTube and came across the 2016 Good Friday game. If you want an indication of how quick a club can turn around get this for a Saints lineup-

1-McDonnell
2-Makinson 3-Peyroux 4-Dawson 5-Owens
6-Fages 7-Walsh
8-Amor 9-Burns 10-Tasi
11-Wilkin 12-Greenwood 13-LMS

It gives me shudders at just how bad they were but how good they are now and also hope, that we’re now on the right path and with a couple of good recruitment decisions you’re in business.

They did have a bench containing Walmsley, Thompson and Roby mind, so not all that bad.

2016 truly was our darkest hour, KC at the height of his coaching powers, and the prospect of replacing Luke Walsh (albeit post broken leg Walsh) with Matty Smith and Tommy Lee…

2017 transfers;
In: Matty Smith (Wigan Warriors), Tommy Lee (Salford), Luke Douglas (Gold Coast), Ryan Morgan (Melbourne), Adam Walker (HKR)
Out: Travis Burns (Manly), Shannon McDonnall (aus second grade), Andre Savelio (Warrington), Lama Tasi (Salford), Jordan Turner (Canberra), Atelea Vea (Leigh), Luke Walsh (Catalan Dragons)

2018 transfers;
In: James Bentley (Bradford Bulls), Ben Barba (mid season)
Out: Greg Richards (mid season - Leigh)

2019 transfers;
In: James Batchelor (York), Kevin Naiqama (West tigers), Joseph Paulo (Cronulla Sharks), Lachlan Coote (Nirth Queensland Cowboys)
Out: Jon Wilkin (Toronto), Matty Smith (Catalan Dragons), Ben Barba (North Queensland Cowboys), Ryan Morgan (London)

2020 transfers;
In:
Out; Danny Richardson (Castleford), Adam Swift (Hull fc)

2021 transfers;
In: Joel Thompson (Manly), Iggy Paasi (NZ Warriors), Sione Mata’uitia (Newcastle Knights), Dan Norman (London), Jame Graham (mid season)
Out: Luke Thompson (mid season), James Graham (retired), Joseph Paulo (Toulouse), Dom Peyroux (Toulouse), Jack Ashworth (Huddersfield)

2022 transfers;
In: Konrad Harrell ( Leeds), Will Hopoate (Canterbury Bulldogs), Curtis Sironen (Manly), Joey Lussick (Parramatta Eels), James Bell (Leigh)
Out: James Bentley (Leeds), Theo Fages (Huddersfield), Lachlan Coote ( HKR), Joel Thompson (retired), Kev Naiqama (Sydney Roosters), Aaron Smith. (Leigh - loan)

Re: Forward watch : Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:48 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

2016 truly was our darkest hour, KC at the height of his coaching powers, and the prospect of replacing Luke Walsh (albeit post broken leg Walsh) with Matty Smith and Tommy Lee…

2017 transfers;
In: Matty Smith (Wigan Warriors), Tommy Lee (Salford), Luke Douglas (Gold Coast), Ryan Morgan (Melbourne), Adam Walker (HKR)
Out: Travis Burns (Manly), Shannon McDonnall (aus second grade), Andre Savelio (Warrington), Lama Tasi (Salford), Jordan Turner (Canberra), Atelea Vea (Leigh), Luke Walsh (Catalan Dragons)

2018 transfers;
In: James Bentley (Bradford Bulls), Ben Barba (mid season)
Out: Greg Richards (mid season - Leigh)

2019 transfers;
In: James Batchelor (York), Kevin Naiqama (West tigers), Joseph Paulo (Cronulla Sharks), Lachlan Coote (Nirth Queensland Cowboys)
Out: Jon Wilkin (Toronto), Matty Smith (Catalan Dragons), Ben Barba (North Queensland Cowboys), Ryan Morgan (London)

2020 transfers;
In:
Out; Danny Richardson (Castleford), Adam Swift (Hull fc)

2021 transfers;
In: Joel Thompson (Manly), Iggy Paasi (NZ Warriors), Sione Mata’uitia (Newcastle Knights), Dan Norman (London), Jame Graham (mid season)
Out: Luke Thompson (mid season), James Graham (retired), Joseph Paulo (Toulouse), Dom Peyroux (Toulouse), Jack Ashworth (Huddersfield)

2022 transfers;
In: Konrad Harrell ( Leeds), Will Hopoate (Canterbury Bulldogs), Curtis Sironen (Manly), Joey Lussick (Parramatta Eels), James Bell (Leigh)
Out: James Bentley (Leeds), Theo Fages (Huddersfield), Lachlan Coote ( HKR), Joel Thompson (retired), Kev Naiqama (Sydney Roosters), Aaron Smith. (Leigh - loan)

It’s full credit to McManus, Rush, Holbrook, Woolf and whoever else that has been involved with turning your recruitment/fortunes around.

Your side now would beat that side by 50+ points.

Re: Forward watch : Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:54 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Sadly I don't see how we can do both. If you drop Singleton and move Ellis to 13, then opens up two prop spots. After Havard, it's a bit threadbare tbh.

Yes you're right - sorry. Ultimately then I fear we need a higher quality starting prop in place of Singleton to give ourselves a chance against Saints.