Re: Squad for Good Friday : Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:02 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

I don't know if leaving him out of the side is the best form of punishment though - it only hurts the team and club as a whole. Depends what he's done I guess - I'm just assuming it's timekeeping.

That's what I'm thinking and nice to see I'm not alone on it. Limiting your chances Vs your biggest rivals, in the biggest weekly fixture is madness to me.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:09 pm  

Credit Peet for putting long term standards and culture above having a better centre/wing option for a one off game.

Stand by his decision 100% even if Halsall/Miski have a nightmare or we miss an easy conversion to win it.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:16 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

That's what I'm thinking and nice to see I'm not alone on it. Limiting your chances Vs your biggest rivals, in the biggest weekly fixture is madness to me.

sort term it may hurt the team, long term it benefits the club

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:17 pm  

NSW wrote:

Credit Peet for putting long term standards and culture above having a better centre/wing option for a one off game.

Stand by his decision 100% even if Halsall/Miski have a nightmare or we miss an easy conversion to win it.

^^this

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:24 pm  

Peet has done the right thing - he won’t have just binned him from a squad without warning, I suspect it won’t be the first offence whatever it is.

I think a bigger game for Wigan than saints in that Wigan have had one game built up as a acid test and were absolutely hopeless at Catalans.

This is the next big test. They need to compete.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:31 pm  

Watched Peets interview on Wigan TV and he said Hardaker had dropped below standards last week and at the start of this week. Sounds like he had his chance and didn’t take it. There was a big hug and words between him and Peet at the end of the Wakey game, which looking back was probably something to do with whatever went on and was said last week.

There has to be standards and players need to be held accountable when they’re not met. It matters little who the player is or who we are playing.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:32 pm  

Pieman wrote:

sort term it may hurt the team, long term it benefits the club

Quite a simple way of looking at it.

Is there only one way for a group to learn a lesson, or only one way to punish someone? Give ZH a huge fine and tell the lads. Or tell him noe that we've got no interest in retaining him past this year. I'm sure that will be just as much of a deterrent and line in the sand. It also doesn't impact those players who haven't done anything wrong. It does however tell them that there's severe measures the club could take and ones that can impact their long term future with Wigan too.

Also doesn't hurt the fans.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:38 pm  

NSW wrote:

Credit Peet for putting long term standards and culture above having a better centre/wing option for a one off game.

Stand by his decision 100% even if Halsall/Miski have a nightmare or we miss an easy conversion to win it.

I’ve got to agree on this one.
I haven’t got a clue what Hardaker has done or maybe not done but fair play to Peet.
It sends out a message to all the squads within the club what the standards are. As long as this is deployed on a consistent basis personally, I feel I’ve got to back the coach.
It’s not a rash or a “brave” decision by Peet its just the right decision.
If players don’t respect those standards then they know where the door is.
Maybe this is what Hardaker should have got ten years or so ago. A good straightener never harmed anyone.

It sounds like Hardaker has let down his teammates, his coach and the fans. Let’s hope that he takes it on the chin and responds accordingly on Monday.
He will be a big loss on Friday. He’s been playing well on a consistent basis and his kicking has significantly improved this season. It makes a win on Friday even less likely but if that’s the price for getting us back to having pride in the club and one’s self then so be it.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:45 pm  

One worry I had with Peet was can you make big calls like this as a young coach, with no top level playing career at the back of you. It’s a high profile player you’re dealing with and it would be easy to just ignore it and not tackle it. Well he’s taken the brave decision and it just makes sure people know you can’t take the mick.

Re: Squad for Good Friday : Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:01 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

One worry I had with Peet was can you make big calls like this as a young coach, with no top level playing career at the back of you. It’s a high profile player you’re dealing with and it would be easy to just ignore it and not tackle it. Well he’s taken the brave decision and it just makes sure people know you can’t take the mick.

Looks to me he’s trying to Get a certain culture going. All top teams have a culture. Good on him I say